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JonTheSavage
I thought this was too funny to not pass up.

http://thepoliticus.org/?p=216
vaporATX
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Paranoid Marvin
Of course, he's a Republican - did we really need a video to prove it tongue.gif
killbot1000
QUOTE (Paranoid Marvin @ May 8 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Of course, he's a Republican - did we really need a video to prove it tongue.gif


This video though was from "The Onion" which I believe is fake news designed to make people laugh.

McCain however IS unsuitable to be president of the United States for so many reasons that its not even funny...
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE (killbot1000 @ May 8 2008, 06:44 PM) *
This video though was from "The Onion" which I believe is fake news designed to make people laugh.


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I didn't even check the video - but if this is what some people are passing off as a reliable source, I really don't kno what to think thumbsdown_anim.gif
killbot1000
QUOTE (Paranoid Marvin @ May 8 2008, 10:54 AM) *
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I didn't even check the video - but if this is what some people are passing off as a reliable source, I really don't kno what to think thumbsdown_anim.gif


I don't think anybody is, but McCain is a little weird, I could see him doing things like this (in the video) but then at the same time, increasing costs, or doing things that don't make sense elsewhere.
aquanutz
QUOTE (killbot1000 @ May 8 2008, 05:44 PM) *
McCain however IS unsuitable to be president of the United States for so many reasons that its not even funny...


And these reasons would be?

I really am curious as to what they are.
SDRacer48
I think sources such as these should be completely ignored. You should not base your vote on CRAP like that or even whether or not he is a Republican, but on whether you agree with his values, morals, and beliefs. Way too many people vote on based on stupid CRAP like that and that is why we always get a lot of complaining and b!tching at the end of every presidents term. Please vote wisely, and make it worth something...
Numberzz
QUOTE (aquanutz @ May 12 2008, 07:09 PM) *
And these reasons would be?

I really am curious as to what they are.

Oh geez I don't know maybe
THE WAR!!
m16
the onion is a better source then fox news
aquanutz
QUOTE (Numberzz @ May 13 2008, 03:25 AM) *
Oh geez I don't know maybe
THE WAR!!


I was unaware that McCain started a war, let alone the war. Might this be the same war that Obama voted to fund, twice?
JonTheSavage
QUOTE (aquanutz @ May 13 2008, 08:57 PM) *
I was unaware that McCain started a war, let alone the war. Might this be the same war that Obama voted to fund, twice?


The man talks to card tables, and pisses himself! How more insane can he be?

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2818.htm#001
http://www.rense.com/general81/amamc.htm

And to think... idiots vote for this loon.
killbot1000
QUOTE (aquanutz @ May 12 2008, 07:09 PM) *
And these reasons would be?

I really am curious as to what they are.


1. He has a notorious temper: McCain is prone to fits of anger and rage. When somebody like this is a world leader with nuclear weapons at their disposal, it scares me.

2. Horrible plans for healthcare: Wants to get rid of tax benefits that companies currently get for providing health insurance to their employees, and give every family $5000 a year to put toward healthcare, where does that money come from? Also the private healthcare market is not regulated at all, insurance companies will literally be able to cherry pick who they insure and who they don't. As John McCain said, he doesn't really know the economy.

3. He has had cancer multiples times (melanoma) and he is almost 72 years old. There is a very good chance this man could die in office, leaving the presidency to whoever he chooses to be his running mate (lets just hope its not Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney).

4. Believes we should stay in Iraq at any cost (bankrupting our nation).

5. Believes that Islam is a radical religion in general, which its not.

6. Just plain out of touch. McCain makes 4 million dolallars a year, and he has a wife who is worth 100 million. McCain has no idea what it is like to be poor in this country now, and his plans help out people like him, rich people, not EVERYONE (including rich people).

I have more, but these are a few examples.
JonTheSavage
Reporter: "Sir, you said that, if elected we will be in Iraq for 50 years"
McCain: "Maybe 100"

I say drop him off over there, and leave him there for 100 years.
capt_cope
No doubt about it, McCain sucks almost as bad as anything the democrats have had to offer for the past 50 years. I don't think I'll vote this time around, just can't bring myself to give support to any of these raging cretins running for office.
djet
Yeah I really don't like any of the candidates....

HIllary = ...... sniper fire?

Seems just flat out dishonest and just running for the position and not the good of the people.

Obama = ..... false hope? Doesn't seem to have that many real plans.... I also don't know if he could be the one making tough decisions.

McCain = stupid plans..... all I got to say.
SticMAC™
Maybe, if we can convince JonTheSavage to run for office, he can become another Kennedy!?


SticMAN

QUOTE (djet @ May 18 2008, 08:56 PM) *
Yeah I really don't like any of the candidates....

HIllary = ...... sniper fire?

Seems just flat out dishonest and just running for the position and not the good of the people.

Obama = ..... false hope? Doesn't seem to have that many real plans.... I also don't know if he could be the one making tough decisions.

McCain = stupid plans..... all I got to say.
djet
So we can shoot him?

Jk....
SticMAC™
"You SIR!, Yes you with the high-powered rifle, with the 65x32 scope, please stand in line and wait your turn!!"


QUOTE (djet @ May 19 2008, 04:16 AM) *
So we can shoot him?

Jk....
killbot1000
QUOTE (djet @ May 18 2008, 11:56 AM) *
Obama = ..... false hope? Doesn't seem to have that many real plans.... I also don't know if he could be the one making tough decisions.


Look at his website, you can download detailed PDF's on every issue of his. He is more than specific enough, its not his fault the media doesn't cover it. Also when you are giving 30 minute speeches, it does not really make sense to go into in-depth specifics on everything, for that people need to read, people haven't been...

Also, much more important than what a president's plans are is who the president ACTUALLY IS. We want somebody who can maintain a cool temperament, can adapt to changing situations, etc. Obama is the only candidate remaining that seems to have these qualities. If he became our president it will entirely change the way the rest of the world sees the US (in a good way). His willingness to try new ideas, to negotiate, to talk, to inform is great! We have had stubborn, old people in office for far too long, we need fresh blood, badly.

George W Bush doesn't even know what the internet is, and does not ever use a computer, how can he have any understanding of how the modern, technological world works? He doesnt.

McCain seems like he is in the same camp as well. Also he is very old, I would not want him to choose a piece of $hit as his running mate (like Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee for that matter), die, and then have this weirdo leading our country. Also his plans that he has released so far are just dumb (healthcare, war, fiscal, etc.).
capt_cope
yeah maintain a cool and racist temperament. Obama is a pile of crap, I wish he'd crawl back to whatever backwards part of Il. he came from. Let me break it down for you: He is one of two things: Either he's a racist pile of crap and needs be to booted out of public office. OR he's being honest, and he qualifies as one of the least observant people since terry shaivo, in which case he really has no place running a country. I've never seen his scumbag pastor in my life, and I can tell you without a doubt he's an idiot and a racist. He's been mentored by the guy for 20 years, takes recordings of his sermons to listen to on the road... but he had no idea the guy was a racist?! just dumb. Maybe we can get kkkramer to run for office next, make a good vp for obama.
JonTheSavage
QUOTE (capt_cope @ May 18 2008, 06:32 PM) *
No doubt about it, McCain sucks almost as bad as anything the democrats have had to offer for the past 50 years. I don't think I'll vote this time around, just can't bring myself to give support to any of these raging cretins running for office.


I think what we need, and I agree with Jesse Ventura, that we need a "None of the Above" option on the poll. What that says is, "I am here to vote, but it is a vote of no confidence." I am willing to bet, that "None of the Above" would indeed win.
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE (capt_cope @ May 21 2008, 11:14 PM) *
yeah maintain a cool and racist temperament. Obama is a pile of crap, I wish he'd crawl back to whatever backwards part of Il. he came from. Let me break it down for you: He is one of two things: Either he's a racist pile of crap and needs be to booted out of public office. OR he's being honest, and he qualifies as one of the least observant people since terry shaivo, in which case he really has no place running a country. I've never seen his scumbag pastor in my life, and I can tell you without a doubt he's an idiot and a racist. He's been mentored by the guy for 20 years, takes recordings of his sermons to listen to on the road... but he had no idea the guy was a racist?! just dumb. Maybe we can get kkkramer to run for office next, make a good vp for obama.

Are you one of those guys that think he's a Muslim too?
Numberzz
QUOTE (Paranoid Marvin @ May 22 2008, 12:06 AM) *
Are you one of those guys that think he's a Muslim too?

I thought he was being sarcastic when I started reading it, but sadly, no.
SticMAC™
My offer still stands........
Maybe, if we can convince JonTheSavage to run for office, he can become another Kennedy!?

QUOTE(djet @ May 19 2008, 04:16 AM) So we can shoot him?

Jk....[/QUOTE]

QUOTE (SticMAN @ May 19 2008, 05:35 AM) *
"You SIR!, Yes you with the high-powered rifle, with the 65x32 scope, please stand in line and wait your turn!!"
brainbone
QUOTE (JonTheSavage @ May 21 2008, 10:16 PM) *
I think what we need, and I agree with Jesse Ventura, that we need a "None of the Above" option on the poll. What that says is, "I am here to vote, but it is a vote of no confidence." I am willing to bet, that "None of the Above" would indeed win.


What we need is true, instant run-off elections, allowing you to select option A, then B if A fails, and so on. This, and this alone, would allow a break from the two party system (and is exactly why you'll never see it happen on a federal level). A vote of no confidence solves nothing.

As for Jesse Ventura... He accomplished very little as governor of MN (his claimed property tax reform has all but been undone, and was only possible because of the relative easy ride he had during a time of budget surpluses). Completely full of hot air. One notable accomplishment was the destruction of public property (the governor's mansion) by allowing his dogs free reign, scratching, biting, pissing and crapping everywhere. What a wonderfully thoughtful man.
capt_cope
Have the two of you bothered to read his book? Or maybe watched just a few of the short clips of his "mentor" that are on various sites like youtube? Wright is pretty clearly the kind of guy who needs to be knocked upside the head with a hard object. Or maybe racism doesn't work both ways? Is it only fat white guys in hoods who qualify as racists now? Because the last time I checked wright is every bit as hateful, he just hasn't killed anyone that I know of.
swirling_vortex
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I was unaware that McCain started a war, let alone the war. Might this be the same war that Obama voted to fund, twice?

The problem is that the troops are already underfunded, so to not vote for it leaves one in a pickle. It wouldn't be a good service to the troops if they had to fight a war with absolutely no funding. Plus, Obama has stated that he will pull troops out...slowly. McCain wants to continue the war and potentially increase troop levels, which essentially puts more of Iraq's responsibility on our hands.
QUOTE
Look at his website, you can download detailed PDF's on every issue of his. He is more than specific enough, its not his fault the media doesn't cover it. Also when you are giving 30 minute speeches, it does not really make sense to go into in-depth specifics on everything, for that people need to read, people haven't been...

Well, not for everything. I'm concerned how Obama will handle the health care crisis. Putting such a large program under government control won't be easy and it'll require a huge spike in tax rates (something he doesn't mention).

However, Obama recieves far less money from lobbyists, so I see him as more "for the people" than Hillary or McCain, especially on the technological side (like net neutrality).
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=K02
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=B12
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What we need is true, instant run-off elections, allowing you to select option A, then B if A fails, and so on. This, and this alone, would allow a break from the two party system (and is exactly why you'll never see it happen on a federal level). A vote of no confidence solves nothing.

A very good point. Another idea would be for each party, both the major and minor ones, would pick some candidates (max 8) and let them each get equal speaking time on the MSM. Then, we vote for one candidate for each party all at once, a.k.a. Primary Day. Give about two weeks to a month for campaigning & debates and then hold the general election. This would eliminate much of the money factor that goes into these elections.
JonTheSavage
QUOTE (SticMAN @ May 22 2008, 01:29 PM) *
My offer still stands........
Maybe, if we can convince JonTheSavage to run for office, he can become another Kennedy!?

QUOTE(djet @ May 19 2008, 04:16 AM) So we can shoot him?

Jk....


Yes, please do. Then the VP could have the Secret Service on you like white on rice, in a glass of milk, in a paper plate, in a snow storm.

You can go ahead, and live in your video game world little one. But know this, when you are cold, hungry, and lying in a ditch with your teeth pulled out by UN troops, you can thank your liberal friends for declaring martial law. Because they control your currency, your GMO food, and your technology.

You are indeed, a fool. And BTW, if you ever threaten me again, You will have a lot more to worry about than me.
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE (JonTheSavage @ May 30 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Yes, please do. Then the VP could have the Secret Service on you like white on rice, in a glass of milk, in a paper plate, in a snow storm.

You can go ahead, and live in your video game world little one. But know this, when you are cold, hungry, and lying in a ditch with your teeth pulled out by UN troops, you can thank your liberal friends for declaring martial law. Because they control your currency, your GMO food, and your technology.

You are indeed, a fool. And BTW, if you ever threaten me again, You will have a lot more to worry about than me.


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SticMAC™
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BTW, it was "djet @ May 19 2008, 04:16 AM) So we can shoot him?"


SticMAN

QUOTE (JonTheSavage @ May 30 2008, 01:07 AM) *
Yes, please do. Then the VP could have the Secret Service on you like white on rice, in a glass of milk, in a paper plate, in a snow storm.

You can go ahead, and live in your video game world little one. But know this, when you are cold, hungry, and lying in a ditch with your teeth pulled out by UN troops, you can thank your liberal friends for declaring martial law. Because they control your currency, your GMO food, and your technology.

You are indeed, a fool. And BTW, if you ever threaten me again, You will have a lot more to worry about than me.
Arestice
QUOTE (capt_cope @ May 21 2008, 06:14 PM) *
yeah maintain a cool and racist temperament. Obama is a pile of crap, I wish he'd crawl back to whatever backwards part of Il. he came from. Let me break it down for you: He is one of two things: Either he's a racist pile of crap and needs be to booted out of public office. OR he's being honest, and he qualifies as one of the least observant people since terry shaivo, in which case he really has no place running a country. I've never seen his scumbag pastor in my life, and I can tell you without a doubt he's an idiot and a racist. He's been mentored by the guy for 20 years, takes recordings of his sermons to listen to on the road... but he had no idea the guy was a racist?! just dumb. Maybe we can get kkkramer to run for office next, make a good vp for obama.


You sound like all you do is watch Fox news and hide behind a curtain all day. I sure hope our whole contry isn't this way.

Alot like this girl actually.. sleep.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSXUfu16pUw
SticMAC™
If I didn't know better, I would have guessed that, the girls is either JonTheSavage's wife, or daughter! hysterical.gif

I love the way you can tell she lives in her room with the curtains drawn permanently!

SticMAN

QUOTE (Arestice @ Jun 2 2008, 07:52 AM) *
You sound like all you do is watch Fox news and hide behind a curtain all day. I sure hope our whole contry isn't this way.

Alot like this girl actually.. sleep.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSXUfu16pUw
Synaesthesia
(fuming) Hippies! Liberals! Peacemongers!!!
sxjthefirst
QUOTE (Synaesthesia @ Jun 2 2008, 02:23 PM) *
(fuming) Hippies! Liberals! Peacemongers!!!


Hmmm sounds good to me smile.gif
JonTheSavage
QUOTE (SticMAN @ Jun 2 2008, 06:18 AM) *
If I didn't know better, I would have guessed that, the girls is either JonTheSavage's wife, or daughter! hysterical.gif
I love the way you can tell she lives in her room with the curtains drawn permanently!
SticMAN


Did your mother give you skim milk when you were a baby?
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE (JonTheSavage @ Jun 19 2008, 06:41 AM) *
Did your mother give you skim milk when you were a baby?


Is this another conspiracy theory? unsure.gif
I think once I was off breastfeeding, we all drank full fat till I was about 10, now we use semi skimmed.
Drinking full fat in my tea now is like having cream! tongue.gif
JonTheSavage
QUOTE (Paranoid Marvin @ Jun 19 2008, 08:11 PM) *
Is this another conspiracy theory? unsure.gif
I think once I was off breastfeeding, we all drank full fat till I was about 10, now we use semi skimmed.
Drinking full fat in my tea now is like having cream! tongue.gif


No. Scientific fact. Baby's brain needs fat to develop! biggrin.gif
Paranoid Marvin
QUOTE (JonTheSavage @ Jun 20 2008, 06:19 AM) *
No. Scientific fact. Baby's brain needs fat to develop! biggrin.gif

Ah, thought that was what you are getting at.

There is actually guidance on the bottles telling people not to give cows milk to children under 18 months

Perhaps we should be giving them bottled hot water instead wink.gif
brainbone
QUOTE (Paranoid Marvin @ Jun 20 2008, 10:55 AM) *
Perhaps we should be giving them bottled hot water instead wink.gif


Breast milk is best, but whiskey runs a close second.
JonTheSavage
QUOTE (brainbone @ Jun 20 2008, 06:36 PM) *
Breast milk is best, but whiskey runs a close second.


You are right. Mother's milk is best. Thats why people are talking about it more lately, its natural.

But whiskey works good for mouth wash. Crushing some mint, and mixing it in a blender with Wild Turkey works good for a tooth ache, or mouth wash. Most of my stuff, I make my own. Mouthwash, toothpaste, etc... I don't trust the stuff you buy in the store. With the rate of cancer as high as it is, the NWO is jumping for glee.
7TH SFG
McCain has been AWOL when it comes to supporting his fellow veterans and the proof is his Anti-Veteran voting record.
the Disabled American Veterans rated McCain 20% on legislation they deemed pertinent. I won't mention Obama's rating since this is the Sen. McCain Thread
McCain voted 5 times in favor of supporting Americas Disabled Veterans and 11 times against them.

9/2007: McCain voted AGAINST bill to minimize periods of time between deployment of units sent to Iraq.
http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_cal...&vote=00341

5/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $20 Million to VA for health care facilities.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00111

4/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $430,000,000 to VA for Medical Services.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00098

3/2006: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical services $1.5 billion in FY2007.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00041

3/2004: McCainvoted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical care by $1.8 billion.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00040

10/2003: McCain voted to TABLE an amendment for $322,000,000 for safety equipment for USforces. "Table"= vote never hits floor.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00376

10/2003: McCain voted to TABLE a vote for $1 Billion for National Guard and Reserve Equipment in Iraq dueto:shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, & tactical vests.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00116







McCain also opposed the Webb/Hagel GI Bill. McCain said his objection to the last Vote on Military Benefits was that he wanted more for Educational Benefits for Career Military. And for those benefits to be transferable to children and spouses of Career Military.

There is a reason every veteran's organization supported the 21st Century GI Bill. McCain did not support giving more benefits to career vets, he proposed decreased benefits for first-term troops to creat a difference in the payments.

Those differences meant $20,000 in student loans for 4yr, 6yr and 10yr vets. It also meant $5,000 in student loans for 20yr vets.Also, the transferability option that was added was not what Sen. McCain had originally proposed.McCain's proposal would have only allowed 50% transferability after 6yrs and 100% after 12 yrs of service.

I Don't believe McLiar when he tells us they "compromised" on the GI Bill. He clearly supported giving career servicemembers like myself and veterans the proverbial "SHAFT".
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