trav1085
Nov 7 2006, 02:42 AM
Just found out over at Information Weekly that a survey of 1,725 teenagers says they are most likely to get a Zune when it is released. 15% of current iPod users stated they would likely switch to a Zune. Apple better do something if they want to win the music market over, say, like a
widescreen iPod?
QUOTE (Information Weekly)
Many prospective buyers of digital music players, including those who currently use Apple's iPod, would be likely to choose Microsoft's upcoming Zune player, a market research firm said Wednesday.
SourceI'm a little shocked, I expected Mac users and iPod users to frown the idea of a Microsoft iPod competitor.
Overdriven
Nov 7 2006, 02:55 AM
Dude. NO ONE at my school knows what a Zune is. So yeah.
-Neospy
jonz14
Nov 7 2006, 02:55 AM
F***ing traitors!
have any of this % even seen the Zune? It has to be one of the ugliest pieces of work I have ever seen.
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The Zune sucks, deal with it
I'm guessing the only reason the Zune got so many votes is because people felt sorry for it
INFNITE
Nov 7 2006, 02:57 AM
just wait till the touchscreen iPods come out....
trav1085
Nov 7 2006, 03:06 AM
I am going to get an iPod, but am waiting to spend my money on a widescreen iPod. The zune reminds me of those 1990's PDAs that have the cheap plastic look and are all crappy inside.
jonz14, FYI it's traitors ;-)
EDIT: Couldn't the zune be a widescreen movie player? I'm not sure if the zune plays movies but if it does, the screen is not a square but is more rectangular, if you rotate the display/movie to the side.
Look at the one on the right,
sev7en
Nov 7 2006, 07:38 AM
Zune will never kill the iPod: I'm sure for that. You can't forget the BIG Apple MusicStore...
sHARD>>
Nov 7 2006, 07:46 AM
Man, the stench of blind fanboyism in this thread is overpowering.
Kiko
Nov 7 2006, 07:56 AM
I love APPLE, I WOULD DIE FOR APPLE
WINDOWS SUX0R5, I R 1337
APPLE FOREVERZZ

it looks nice tho
head
Nov 7 2006, 08:10 AM
QUOTE (Kiko @ Nov 7 2006, 08:56 AM)

I love APPLE, I WOULD DIE FOR APPLE
WINDOWS SUX0R5, I R 1337
APPLE FOREVERZZ

it looks nice tho
wooohoooo!
i´m such a fanboy, that i work every day with my beloved mac!
am i crazy?
my macbookpro has no problems at all. is it crazy?
thousands of people trust in apple - are they crazy?
;-)
Kiko
Nov 7 2006, 08:25 AM
lol, i have a imac as well, i like it just as much as my windows box
Colonel
Nov 7 2006, 12:06 PM
Most of the people I know don't even know what a Zune is.
sandmanfvrga
Nov 7 2006, 01:42 PM
There was a post here, with pics of the zune and ipod next to each other. The Zune's screen isn't but a mere fraction of inch longer. Don't know where it is. The Zune is being pushed in a local Gamestop, but other than that I don't see it anywhere. Zune sucks.
icey-ice-ice
Nov 7 2006, 03:04 PM
the zune adjusts to when it's tilted so it can be widescreen.
sandmanfvrga
Nov 7 2006, 04:25 PM
Yes but that picture, I will search it here in a second shows even when titled, it is not much bigger.
EDIT:
Here it is:

I mean the screen has maybe 1/4 inch on it, not much. So the Zune isn't really "super widescreen" and the ipod isn't. Plus the design is so much an iPod rip off. I saw other shots on the net, same hold buttom on the top.
McSkywalker
Nov 7 2006, 04:37 PM
It is too late for Microsoft. They had to do it a few years ago. So it's not even a threat to iPod's marketshare. The brand loyalty for iPod is rock-solid. No need to mention that iPod's design is way better, anyway.
John T. Folden
Nov 7 2006, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (icey-ice-ice @ Nov 7 2006, 10:04 AM)

the zune adjusts to when it's tilted so it can be widescreen.
IIRC, the resolution of the Zune is no better than the iPod despite it's proportions and therefore can't be a true wide-screen display.
oregano
Nov 7 2006, 05:32 PM
ummm.. theres no way zune will do that
im sry, ipod has such a reputation
microsoft has none
ipod is strong, it will lose less than 5% of customers to zune, at the most
theres my 5 cents
tomozj
Nov 7 2006, 06:17 PM
M$ has the opposite of reputation. Instantly the name Zune is dull, isn't it? iPod is a much better name. It instantly makes you think of something... good

Zune will sell, but not very good. But hey look what happened with the XBox. It's going quite well now. I'll probably get criticized for that. Damn it.
-tj
oregano
Nov 7 2006, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (tomozj @ Nov 7 2006, 01:17 PM)

Zune will sell, but not very good. But hey look what happened with the XBox. It's going quite well now. I'll probably get criticized for that. Damn it.
-tj
no, actually, i agree
xbox is doing very well, and i think i just found what apple needs to do to become the greatest company ever: gaming system
imagine: iGame, or something like that
the ipods reputation of quality, built into a gaming system
spring 2008--any takers?
that would definately sell
and it could possibly surpass the xbox's sales as well
aberracus
Nov 7 2006, 08:12 PM
XBOX was really one of the few winners in the adventures of Microsoft in the consumer market, but at waht cost, the hardware was so subsidiezed that they loss billions, but they recover some with software sells, now, with xbox360 they are getting much more from the third party developers and hardware accesories makers.
So Zune? zune what? theres no hip about zune.. nobody talk about it, its bigger than a box of cigarrets, its cursed i think, but maybe MS can whitstand to support it to Vs3 and then somehow it will start being competitive, right now it isnt.
just my two cents
oregano
Nov 7 2006, 09:10 PM
yeah
its possible, and likely, that zune will suck profits out of m$
i could c that-they lose money over it
Pantalaimon
Nov 7 2006, 10:17 PM
just buy the poo-like brown zune, it's rocks xD
zune is no different to other mp3 players... just one more to fight with the iPod, and 1% less marketshare for apple D:
solaar
Nov 7 2006, 10:20 PM
I never owned an iPod (seriously) but the day the Zune comes out I will buy one. An iPod, that is...
kevin_4e
Nov 7 2006, 11:46 PM
After the holiday season, if I were to be shopping for a portable music device, the zune wouldn't be out of the question. I do think it is too late for MS and it won't have an incredible impact, but the greatest one so far. By the time Christmas ends, I think Apple will have released something that surpasses the Zune greatly. That's what's holding back Apple from releasing the latest greatest in the way of iPods.
invisibl
Nov 7 2006, 11:56 PM
I use my Sony ericsson P910i as a music player and when/if the Iphone becomes a reality then will in all likely hood migrate to that.. Specially if they get smart and introduce a PDA variant phone.
mmmm
Please?
trav1085
Nov 8 2006, 03:23 AM
I don't know if I want a music player like this:
QUOTE (Wikipedia!)
The name Zune has been criticized by some because they believe it is similar to the pronounciation of the Hebrew word Zi-yun, a term for fornication.
Also the name Zune has been criticized due to the fact that in Canada, the word Zune is also a French-Canadian term used as a euphemism for penis or vagina, often around children.
sHARD>>
Nov 8 2006, 03:42 AM
As much as I don't go off rooting for Microsoft daily, I must say, the critisims made in this thread are terrible. If you don't want to buy a product or support a company, so be it, but making crap up about it is just silly.
Cases in point:
"M$ has the opposite of reputation. Instantly the name Zune is dull, isn't it? iPod is a much better name. It instantly makes you think of something... good " - Windows? What kind of name is Windows? Oh yes, it doesn't matter does it, people buy it anyway.
"zune is no different to other mp3 players... just one more to fight with the iPod, and 1% less marketshare for apple D:" - On the contrary, from what I've seen and heard Apple takes this competitor seriously (many reputable sources have said the 5.5G iPod was a pre-emptive attack (heh, we love those eh?) on the Zune).
"Come get the new Microsoft Zune, nearly the size of a brick and sporting new wireless technology that will take your once low battery life to an even lower 15 minutes! You can even pick one of our original colors that represents your style! Rip-off white, Rip-off black, and {censored} Green!" - First, it's barely larger in volume to an iPod, as a matter of fact it's around the 4G iPod which every freaking person on the planet bought. Also, the wireless isn't on 24/7. Finally, it's not even green, perhaps the most embarassing mistake which reveals your blind rejection of any non-Apple audio device.
"The zune reminds me of those 1990's PDAs that have the cheap plastic look and are all crappy inside." - A valid opinion, but the iPod looks pretty cheap until you see the Lucite effect in person.
"Plus the design is so much an iPod rip off. I saw other shots on the net, same hold buttom on the top." - Copying the current leader isn't a reason not to buy a product. Macintosh 100% stole from the previous GUI leader, Xerox. Didn't stop you from loving them.
"I mean the screen has maybe 1/4 inch on it, not much. So the Zune isn't really "super widescreen" and the ipod isn't." - Even if the screen is only 1.4th of an inch wider at it's widest point (it's bigger), that makes the screen a full 135% of the iPod screen. Makes a big difference at these tiny sizes.
So, in conclusion, I own an iPod (two actually), and don't plan to get a Zune anytime soon. I'm just here to make sure we all don't turn into Apple henchmen out to steal the souls of other people capable of making their own educated decisions. Bottom line: every single company or person who has ever discounted Microsoft's ability to dominate a market has gotten burned (yes, even the Xbox was a pretty good success), so it's not wise to start doing so now.
j0hnc0ry
Nov 8 2006, 04:26 AM
The real winner in this iPod vs. Zune competition will ultimately be the consumers. Portable devices will offer more storage, more function, and cheaper prices. Hopefully, in a bid to undercut the competition, Apple or Microsoft will open up their machines from proprietary formats.
MyNameIsSam
Nov 8 2006, 08:42 PM
QUOTE
no, actually, i agree
xbox is doing very well, and i think i just found what apple needs to do to become the greatest company ever: gaming system
imagine: iGame, or something like that
the ipods reputation of quality, built into a gaming system
spring 2008--any takers?
that would definately sell
and it could possibly surpass the xbox's sales as well
I would say that will never happen. Then again, two years ago, I said that Windows will never run on a Mac.
It's possible, but I highly doubt it.
unixguru
Nov 9 2006, 08:05 PM
I'm no Apple zealot. I can't stand zealots. I really think more competition will be good for consumers here, so I welcome the Zune. That said, I don't think it's a significant challenge to the iPod. I just read a review in USA Today at lunch that said the same thing. Problems are:
1. It's bigger. In a portable, that's a big deal. I have a 4G iPod and I think it's too big. I'll probably sell it. I bought a mini to replace it.
2. It doesn't look as nice. With many music player purchasers, this is a consideration.
3. Almost no one who isn't a nerd has heard of it, making it unlikely to sell to anyone but nerds. I don't know who this source polled, but they must be in the A/V club.
4. Which stores does this work with again? We've already got Plays For Sure. And what was before that? Microsoft has three different DRM schemes now, and few outside of the tech community will be able to sort them out. Apple has just one.
5. More restrictive DRM. The DRM will be more restrictive than Apple's. Once word spreads about this, I doubt consumers will be too happy.
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