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Dannydeman
I love the mouse, and I really want to buy it. Now I use a mighty mouse (wired) because I didn't have bluetooth. Now I found a compatible bluetooth dongle (according to the OSX86 wiki, it's plug and play) and I was wondering if the Magic mouse will work with a external bluetooth dongle on OSX86? If that is the case, I will buy it smile.gif.
Binge
id also like to know the answer to this, which usb bluetooth dongle are you lookign at ?
eversynth
I am interested in it too.
In the wiki, for 10.6.0 (there are no entries for bluetooth in 10.6.1), there are those reported:

Asus USB-BT21 Mini Bluetooth Dongle - Apple wireless keyboard and Mighty Mouse working out of box, no patch

Linksys USBBT100 - Tested + working with Mighty Mouse (A1197) and Morotola H550 headset.

No mention of Magic Mouse...
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (eversynth @ Oct 22 2009, 04:05 PM) *
I am interested in it too.
In the wiki, for 10.6.0 (there are no entries for bluetooth in 10.6.1), there are those reported:

Asus USB-BT21 Mini Bluetooth Dongle - Apple wireless keyboard and Mighty Mouse working out of box, no patch

Linksys USBBT100 - Tested + working with Mighty Mouse (A1197) and Morotola H550 headset.

No mention of Magic Mouse...


I bought a Belkin F8T017ng (100m) range, worked out of the box with SL, detected a neighbours mobile phone
across the street.

I've ordered a magic mouse, quotes 5-7 days delivery so I'll post back how I get on

steve
A
< might buy one too
dolfin
I got a wireless Mighty Mouse with my hackintosh, and I'm using this dongle:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11825

It works perfectly under Snow Leopard and Windows 7.
stellarola
If anyone is considering buying a bluetooth adapter get the one apple recommends, the D-Link DBT-120 (Rev B2)

I believe this is the only adapter that supports system wake via bluetooth, other than the built-in bluetooth modules in Macs.

-Stell
Embio
I recently received a Thinkpad 600e - and one of those adapters was in the bag. works a treat!
SticMAC™
Have a Broadcom CCBT2035BDGP23-1 USB-bluetooth works great on a IntelG3(Atom) and the Magic Mouse!
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (stellarola @ Oct 25 2009, 09:03 AM) *
If anyone is considering buying a bluetooth adapter get the one apple recommends, the D-Link DBT-120 (Rev B2)

I believe this is the only adapter that supports system wake via bluetooth, other than the built-in bluetooth modules in Macs.

-Stell


Following a Windows 7 install I created a fresh SL repair/test drive on an old 120GB drive - full manual install

Sleep working with above Belkin BlueTooth device on Giigabyte EX58-UD5 f9e bios
Sleep auto and via apple menu, wake on keyboard & mouse tongue.gif
Everything else working Lan, Bonjour, CI/QE, TimeCapsule etc

Magic Mouse still in the post so not tested with that yet

regards
Steve
kmare
LocusOfControl,
can you check if wake from bluetooth is available in your Control Panel/Bluetooth/Advanced Settings. Since upgrade to 10.6 the option is grayed out for me -- I've tried my DBT-120 on two different 10.6 machines





LocusOfControl
QUOTE (kmare @ Oct 26 2009, 05:58 PM) *
LocusOfControl,
can you check if wake from bluetooth is available in your Control Panel/Bluetooth/Advanced Settings. Since upgrade to 10.6 the option is grayed out for me -- I've tried my DBT-120 on two different 10.6 machines


Yes it is greyed out here as well, I have a wired keyboard and wireless mouse at the moment so there are
no bluetooth mice or keyboards associated with my computer. I'll check when my magic mouse arrives.

steve
kmare
I suspect that wake from bluetooth will not work -- apple changed something in the 10.6.x kexts and it appears the kernel no longer recognizes DBT-120s as supporting wake from sleep. Ideally we need someone with a real macpro to see what DBT120 supports
AZanshin
QUOTE (kmare @ Oct 26 2009, 09:03 PM) *
I suspect that wake from bluetooth will not work -- apple changed something in the 10.6.x kexts and it appears the kernel no longer recognizes DBT-120s as supporting wake from sleep. Ideally we need someone with a real macpro to see what DBT120 supports


I Purchased a generic bluetooth dongle from argos and it worked out of the box with no drivers needed on my Powermac G4. I used it to connect to Mighty Mouse And Wireless Apple Keyboard, plus it was only £6.99.

I am running 10.4
A
just ordered this magic mouse.
Would really appreciate comments regarding Bluetooth/wake from sleep.


LocusOfControl
Magic mouse arrived today, very nice and shiny in it's little plastic case and padded cardboard box.

Almost a shame to open the box and use it

It does work including the two finger swipe feature, this works in things such as iPhoto etc but also in Safari so that you don't need to hit the back or forward button. The trick is not to press the mouse hard but rather just gently stroke and tap it.

Seems to move pretty well, the friction from the sliders on the bottom of the mouse feels rougher than say a logitech but there is an advantage in that when doing swiping it doesn't slip, it feels like they will 'run in' after a few days wear

There is also a screen magnify mode by pressing ctrl finger up down

I did notice when I updated the software the other day it broke sleep when no mouse was connected. There are a lot of kext changes here. Sleep doesn't work for me anymore

I assume that  this maybe because the bluetooth isn't reported as built in?

I didn't find it uncomfortable to use, just need to position your hand further to the back of the mouse than usual so that your wrist lies on the desk (which I guess is good)

Updated

Steve
A
QUOTE (LocusOfControl @ Oct 30 2009, 06:46 PM) *
I did notice when I updated the software the other day it broke sleep when no mouse was connected. There are a lot of kext changes here. Sleep doesn't work for me anymore

I assume that  this maybe because the bluetooth isn't reported as built in?



that would be a huge letdown. try to wake the system with another usb mouse and see if that works as expected.
Please share your experiences!
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (A @ Oct 31 2009, 01:28 PM) *
that would be a huge letdown. try to wake the system with another usb mouse and see if that works as expected.
Please share your experiences!


To be specific I can send the computer to sleep and in s3 mode it does sleep but my monitor remains black on wake

I tried with usb mouse only, no luck. I was hoping the addition of MM might have had a magic effect and fix it..

It's easy to roll back, keep a copy of /S/L/E before you do the update and then just replace the new /S/L/E contents and run kextinstaller or manually update. Fixed sleep again but unfortunately you wont have MM support.

It may work with another BT card/dongle though - just not mine at the moment although prior to running the update
the BT dongle did sleep with mobile phones associated etc so I think it may be the update - it will be interesting to see
what 10.6.2 brings

steve
Cosmin Petre
QUOTE
Fixed sleep again but unfortunately you wont have MM support

No sleep here too.

Haven't rolled back yet - momentum scroll is just too good to miss out on!

Hoep there's a fix or workaround soon.

FYI I'm using a DBT120 dongle
A
ugh thats dissapointing.
I really hope to have both sleep and a full working magicmouse.

hmmmmm You guys are both on a EX58-UD5 - but might not be related to that. hmm
Cosmin Petre
QUOTE (A @ Nov 1 2009, 07:10 PM) *
ugh thats dissapointing.
I really hope to have both sleep and a full working magicmouse.

hmmmmm You guys are both on a EX58-UD5 - but might not be related to that. hmm

I know!

I'm going to do some more testing and see if I can pinpoint exactly what is causing the problem...

Interestingly on my 10.5.8 install (with Magic Mouse driver installed) sleep works fine. In 10.5.8 the momentum scroll isn't supported I wonder if the driver for this in Snow Leopard could be responsible!?
A
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...p;#entry1317005

just wanted to bring those together.



Cosmin Petre are you on Snow Leopard or regular Leopard?

Cosmin Petre
QUOTE (A @ Nov 1 2009, 09:10 PM) *
Cosmin Petre are you on Snow Leopard or regular Leopard?

I have two installs on different disks, 10.6.1. and 10.5.8 both with cham rc3 and sleepenabler.kext

After installing Magic Mouse software on 10.5.8 everything continues to work well. On 10.6.1, sleep doesn't work after MM install (goes to sleep but hangs on wake)
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (Cosmin Petre @ Nov 1 2009, 04:26 PM) *
No sleep here too.

Haven't rolled back yet - momentum scroll is just too good to miss out on!

Hoep there's a fix or workaround soon.

FYI I'm using a DBT120 dongle



Thanks for that wink.gif , good to know changing the dongle won't fix things so I won't worry myself trying to find a DBT120
A
would be interesting hear what real Mac Pro owners without the built in Bluetooth option discover when they use the Magic Mouse with a usb Bluetooth dongle. I. e. if there is support for such a configuration.

Anyways, I will have to wait a few more days for my mouse -- would be cool if you guys continue to post your discoveries. wink.gif
phoenix789
i was at my applestore today and they don't have it yet, hopefully by the end of the week sad.gif . However, i've tried a cheap wireless mouse before with usb receiver and it just lags i can't have it move correctly even after using disabler.kext in leo or snow (in ubuntu it works). With a bluetooth dongle and the magic mouse could i have the same problem? I don't want to buy it and after see that i can't use it.
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (phoenix789 @ Nov 2 2009, 02:02 PM) *
i was at my applestore today and they don't have it yet, hopefully by the end of the week sad.gif . However, i've tried a cheap wireless mouse before with usb receiver and it just lags i can't have it move correctly even after using disabler.kext in leo or snow (in ubuntu it works). With a bluetooth dongle and the magic mouse could i have the same problem? I don't want to buy it and after see that i can't use it.


On my ex58-ud5 having gotten used to the MM I think it's great, no lag whatever. I think you also need to develop a
different style for using the mouse, half mouse, half touch pad.

Only issue is sleep, I read that it works on some real macs, but others have issues with it waking up straight away which happens to me occasionally.

steve
pxavierperez
QUOTE (stellarola @ Oct 25 2009, 10:03 AM) *
If anyone is considering buying a bluetooth adapter get the one apple recommends, the D-Link DBT-120 (Rev B2)


I concur. I have that exact bluetooth adapter and it works flawlessly in Leopard and Snow Leopard.
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (pxavierperez @ Nov 2 2009, 02:40 PM) *
I concur. I have that exact bluetooth adapter and it works flawlessly in Leopard and Snow Leopard.


Does it support sleep/wake with Magic Mouse and latest update ? Someone else with one of these posted that it didn't.
Nice to have a confirmation of a working sleep/wake

steve
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (LocusOfControl @ Nov 2 2009, 02:55 PM) *
Does it support sleep/wake with Magic Mouse and latest update ? Someone else with one of these posted that it didn't.
Nice to have a confirmation of a working sleep/wake

steve


Sleep kind of works in 64bit mode, wakes up a few seconds later the first time. On waking the scroll feature doesn't work.
Subsequent sleeps do work though. Sounds like the dongle is a composite device and it gets broken the first sleep, allowing subsequent sleeps to work. The breaking of the device simulating a usb removal and wake up
(should be fixable?)

Having been working in 64 bit mode, if you boot back into 32 bit mode you get the same behaviour

steve


LocusOfControl
QUOTE (LocusOfControl @ Nov 2 2009, 04:04 PM) *
Sleep kind of works in 64bit mode, wakes up a few seconds later the first time. On waking the scroll feature doesn't work.
Subsequent sleeps do work though. Sounds like the dongle is a composite device and it gets broken the first sleep, allowing subsequent sleeps to work. The breaking of the device simulating a usb removal and wake up
(should be fixable?)

Having been working in 64 bit mode, if you boot back into 32 bit mode you get the same behaviour

steve


Kind of fixed ...


Removed SleepEnabler and NullCPUManagement kexts from EFI/Extra/Extensions and rebooted in 64 bit

sleep is better behaved. scrolling lost on wake but if you remove the dongle and reinsert it then scrolling
works again

This is for i7 cpu on EX58-UD5 board

steve

A

Nice!
We still need cleaner solution though.


QUOTE (LocusOfControl @ Nov 2 2009, 06:50 PM) *
Kind of fixed ...


Removed SleepEnabler and NullCPUManagement kexts from EFI/Extra/Extensions and rebooted in 64 bit

sleep is better behaved. scrolling lost on wake but if you remove the dongle and reinsert it then scrolling
works again

This is for i7 cpu on EX58-UD5 board

steve

Webly-Ra
QUOTE (Dannydeman @ Oct 21 2009, 01:28 PM) *
I love the mouse, and I really want to buy it. Now I use a mighty mouse (wired) because I didn't have bluetooth. Now I found a compatible bluetooth dongle (according to the OSX86 wiki, it's plug and play) and I was wondering if the Magic mouse will work with a external bluetooth dongle on OSX86? If that is the case, I will buy it smile.gif.



i picked up one at tesco tecknica and it paired up with the mouse lik a charm
on p6t se mobo

no wake on sleep tho!!
Cosmin Petre
QUOTE (pxavierperez @ Nov 2 2009, 02:40 PM) *
I concur. I have that exact bluetooth adapter and it works flawlessly in Leopard and Snow Leopard.

Interesting... Sleep working in SL? What rev is your DBT 120? Mine is revB4 and it works in Leopard but not Snow Leopard.
build
Hi all,

I'm about to purchase one.

To confirm does the magic mouse software update stop you all waking from sleep with just the mouse? Or are you unable to wake from sleep at all?

I ask this because I use the power button to wake from sleep.

Thanks.
build
QUOTE (build @ Nov 3 2009, 11:36 AM) *
Hi all,

I'm about to purchase one.

To confirm does the magic mouse software update stop you all waking from sleep with just the mouse? Or are you unable to wake from sleep at all?

I ask this because I use the power button to wake from sleep.

Thanks.


Anyone?
tonymacx86
I have the Magic Mouse and Apple Wireless Keyboard working great in Retail Snow Leopard with Jabra Bluetooth 2.0 dongle.
A
Tony: can you wake your system from sleep with it ?
Is sleep working for you?
Please tell us your system specs.


Cumprimentos
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (LocusOfControl @ Nov 2 2009, 05:50 PM) *
Kind of fixed ...


Removed SleepEnabler and NullCPUManagement kexts from EFI/Extra/Extensions and rebooted in 64 bit

sleep is better behaved. scrolling lost on wake but if you remove the dongle and reinsert it then scrolling
works again

This is for i7 cpu on EX58-UD5 board

steve



Using BTExplorer on the dongle it seems that when it sleeps/wakes all the BT services are lost (composite class of device is zero)

Pulling it out/in then restarts them
build
QUOTE (LocusOfControl @ Nov 4 2009, 10:05 AM) *
Using BTExplorer on the dongle it seems that when it sleeps/wakes all the BT services are lost (composite class of device is zero)

Pulling it out/in then restarts them


I'm also interested if you have sleep working Tony.
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (build @ Nov 4 2009, 02:41 PM) *
I'm also interested if you have sleep working Tony.


I would be surprised if it were. I had a look at the apple developer pages and it says that the only USB dongle they
semi supported was a certain revision of a D-Link BB-120 which required a firmware flash rendering it unuseable in Windows. They seem to sell them in the US (discontinued in Europe) although I saw on a consumer site from someone who bought one for the purpose of using it with OS X that they are different new versions of the old model and are often
advertised with with the old picture. Apple doesn't seem to support them anymore favouring built in cards

Apple Bluetooth kexts seem to use the Broadcom chipsets now, my Belkin is the same Broadcom

Of course if anyone can prove me wrong wink.gif

PS
The firmware flash doesn't run on SL, even if you extract the bits with pacifist.
A
umm , I just realized that I can also wake my system up via power button - does this work for you LocusOfControl and Cosmin Petre?

I would be fine with using the power button - hope it works wink.gif

build
I had one of those d-link bluetooth adapters, but I have lost it....

If the system can wake via the power button then I will get one.
LocusOfControl
QUOTE (A @ Nov 4 2009, 03:25 PM) *
umm , I just realized that I can also wake my system up via power button - does this work for you LocusOfControl and Cosmin Petre?

I would be fine with using the power button - hope it works wink.gif



Sleeping or waking the machine isn't really the issue, I can wake by keyboard, USB insertion, removal, power button
(just tried it). The issue is that the BT HCI service on the dongle is dead on wake. everything else works perfectly.

I just have my dongle plugged into the front of my case, when I want to wake the machine I just pull the dongle out and in and everything works in seconds. It would be nice if this was automated.

Any DSDT experts know if DSDT can support composite USB devices?

By the way MM is great, I tried using my old mice (wired mighty mouse and logitech laser). The MM feels natural, the others feel horrid. Two finger sweep is great for internet browsing, such a pain to have to hit back/forward buttons with
the old fashioned mice

steve

A
QUOTE (LocusOfControl @ Nov 4 2009, 05:30 PM) *
Sleeping or waking the machine isn't really the issue, I can wake by keyboard, USB insertion, removal, power button
(just tried it). The issue is that the BT HCI service on the dongle is dead on wake. everything else works perfectly.


Thats good . Im so used to put my system to sleep - dont know if I could sacrifice that for the gestures.

Regarding Dsdt , this might be of interest. http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...2518&st=340


build
The UK Apple store are listing the Belkin mini usb bluetooth adapter for a "Mac Pro without a Bluetooth adapter."

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/TW622ZM/A?mco=MTMxMjYwMjE

Has anyone tried one with the Magic Mouse?
build
QUOTE (A @ Nov 7 2009, 08:32 AM) *


Hmmm, no dice then.
LocusOfControl
Good news

Thanks to a tip off from CruiSAr who tested an old BT mighty mouse with a Trust dongle and found it worked

I bought one the other day on ebay and it arrived this morning.

I can confirm the Trust dongle works with Magic Mouse, if I put the machine to sleep, on waking all the MM features
work as before

The part is

http://www.trust.com/products/product.aspx?artnr=15542

steve
A

Good news indeed!


Thanks will order one in a sec !
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