How to fit PC in a G5 PowerMac enclosure :> Options

[Baudouin]

Yes, it is worth to build it. . And the personal time... I know what you mean.

[nervouschimp]

my dual-velociraptor raid 0 setup went perfect.... and here is my new xbench results:

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Results    337.25    
    System Info        
        Xbench Version        1.3
        System Version        10.5.3 (9D34)
        Physical RAM        8192 MB
        Model        MacPro3,1
        Drive Type        Areca ARC-1120-VOL#00
    CPU Test    225.60    
        GCD Loop    424.92    22.40 Mops/sec
        Floating Point Basic    207.05    4.92 Gflop/sec
        vecLib FFT    163.25    5.39 Gflop/sec
        Floating Point Library    226.16    39.38 Mops/sec
    Thread Test    454.76    
        Computation    537.09    10.88 Mops/sec, 4 threads
        Lock Contention    394.32    16.96 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
    Memory Test    281.90    
        System    307.34    
            Allocate    436.71    1.60 Malloc/sec
            Fill    252.23    12263.91 MB/sec
            Copy    285.18    5890.21 MB/sec
        Stream    260.34    
            Copy    243.26    5024.43 MB/sec
            Scale    245.43    5070.56 MB/sec
            Add    275.47    5868.04 MB/sec
            Triad    281.77    6027.74 MB/sec
    Quartz Graphics Test    348.07    
        Line    271.25    18.06 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
        Rectangle    366.80    109.51 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
        Circle    307.37    25.05 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
        Bezier    293.28    7.40 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
        Text    775.87    48.53 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test    235.68    
        Spinning Squares    235.68    298.97 frames/sec
    User Interface Test    598.35    
        Elements    598.35    2.75 Krefresh/sec
    Disk Test    558.68    
        Sequential    350.53    
            Uncached Write    377.98    232.08 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Write    462.47    261.66 MB/sec [256K blocks]
            Uncached Read    196.06    57.38 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Read    665.36    334.41 MB/sec [256K blocks]
        Random    1375.39    
            Uncached Write    1259.20    133.30 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Write    694.09    222.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]
            Uncached Read    8392.64    59.47 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Read    1804.28    334.80 MB/sec [256K blocks]

needless to say, I am really happy. the pci-x areca arc-1120 card has native kernel-level support in leopard. no need for drivers

[dark4181]

my dual-velociraptor raid 0 setup went perfect.... and here is my new xbench results:

CODE

Results    337.25    
    System Info        
        Xbench Version        1.3
        System Version        10.5.3 (9D34)
        Physical RAM        8192 MB
        Model        MacPro3,1
        Drive Type        Areca ARC-1120-VOL#00
    CPU Test    225.60    
        GCD Loop    424.92    22.40 Mops/sec
        Floating Point Basic    207.05    4.92 Gflop/sec
        vecLib FFT    163.25    5.39 Gflop/sec
        Floating Point Library    226.16    39.38 Mops/sec
    Thread Test    454.76    
        Computation    537.09    10.88 Mops/sec, 4 threads
        Lock Contention    394.32    16.96 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
    Memory Test    281.90    
        System    307.34    
            Allocate    436.71    1.60 Malloc/sec
            Fill    252.23    12263.91 MB/sec
            Copy    285.18    5890.21 MB/sec
        Stream    260.34    
            Copy    243.26    5024.43 MB/sec
            Scale    245.43    5070.56 MB/sec
            Add    275.47    5868.04 MB/sec
            Triad    281.77    6027.74 MB/sec
    Quartz Graphics Test    348.07    
        Line    271.25    18.06 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
        Rectangle    366.80    109.51 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
        Circle    307.37    25.05 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
        Bezier    293.28    7.40 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
        Text    775.87    48.53 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test    235.68    
        Spinning Squares    235.68    298.97 frames/sec
    User Interface Test    598.35    
        Elements    598.35    2.75 Krefresh/sec
    Disk Test    558.68    
        Sequential    350.53    
            Uncached Write    377.98    232.08 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Write    462.47    261.66 MB/sec [256K blocks]
            Uncached Read    196.06    57.38 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Read    665.36    334.41 MB/sec [256K blocks]
        Random    1375.39    
            Uncached Write    1259.20    133.30 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Write    694.09    222.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]
            Uncached Read    8392.64    59.47 MB/sec [4K blocks]
            Uncached Read    1804.28    334.80 MB/sec [256K blocks]

needless to say, I am really happy. the pci-x areca arc-1120 card has native kernel-level support in leopard. no need for drivers

Those are Hackintosh numbers? Holy {censored}.. usually for osx86 the disk test numbers are around 50-60. A simple raid card + v-raptors gave you 500+????

I know what's going into my hack when I build it

[CaptHowie]

Hey Guys,
Being following the thread, it's being in my bookmarks for a while now so i'm looking at it now because i just bought a Power Mac G5 case on eBay with all the extras included (e.g. PSU cover, front button etc...). My question now, after looking at all this skill shown in this thread is what components should I use? I wouldn't mind running the vanilla kernel so I can update it using Apple Software Update. I'm planning to copy the idea off nervouschimp with cables redirected to the back because I cannot mentally cut a case as well designed as the G5 case Also, i'm building this because I cannot afford a Mac Pro, i'm 16 and i've already got a MacBook Pro so yes I am a Mac user...

Thanks in Advance,
howie

[teknojunkie]

Ok dont get a Motherboard tray for this if you wanna redirect cables to the back. Just Mount with on the G5 lined up with the PCI ports and get a M-ATX and use your PSU Cover open up your psu stick it down their. Then get some Noctua fans stick them on the side. Get a good Heatsink for your north and south bridge, and CPU, Get 2 good hdd's. A nice M-ATX Gigabyte Board. Then Wire up your front panel and put one more noctua fan in the back. I made a little print of how mine is going to look.

Dont rush it take your time as I made that mistake.

 G5_Pc_diagram.jpg ( 144.5K ) Number of downloads: 195

[CaptHowie]

Thanks for the reply. Any particular Gigabyte M-ATX board you recommend. Just need one that works well with OSX86. Also, any idea if I could create my own cable from the front panel (power button... etc...) to the motherboard, as the cable seems to be missing.

Thanks,
howie

[nervouschimp]

[nylock10]

Hot damn, nice job!

Looks really nice, looks just like a Mac Pro!

Also, I see you have the same desk as me

Congratulations.

[CaptHowie]

NervousChimp, your mod is absolutely amazing! It looks like the real deal, especially with the 30" Apple Cinema Display. Anyway, I just wanted to ask you and everyone else a question. I'm looking to install a mATX board in my G5 case, because I want to keep the top shelf intact. I've just got one thing on my mind that I think will be a problem. If I mount the mATX board with the PCI slots at the back, how will I get the cables to match up with the port holes on the back. I don't think there will be enough space!

howie

[nervouschimp]

NervousChimp, your mod is absolutely amazing! It looks like the real deal, especially with the 30" Apple Cinema Display. Anyway, I just wanted to ask you and everyone else a question. I'm looking to install a mATX board in my G5 case, because I want to keep the top shelf intact. I've just got one thing on my mind that I think will be a problem. If I mount the mATX board with the PCI slots at the back, how will I get the cables to match up with the port holes on the back. I don't think there will be enough space!howie

mATX boards are crap. just front-mount a full-size board.... of course you'd have to expect that answer from me....

Hot damn, nice job!Looks really nice, looks just like a Mac Pro!Also, I see you have the same desk as me :PCongratulations.

thanks... haha... it's an ikea desk, and the first one wasn't durable enough to secure the monitor arm, so I bought this one, but it was worth it, a 30-inch on humanscale M7 arm is sooooo nice.....

[CaptHowie]

When you front mount the case as you have done nervouschimp, does that mean you have to remove the top shelf? You mod is awesome, just don't know if i'll be able to do something like that! Plus I don't really want to reck my case, it's designed too well!!! Oh, is it any harder to mount an ATX?

howie :?

[EDIT]
Oh, just noticed you haven't removed the top shelf! My main other concern (apart from how hard it is to mount an ATX is the back case plate) is where the PSU can go. I really don't want to cut my case. Your PSU mod is awesome, but I just don't know if I can do as a clean mod as you have. Any other ideas?

howie
P.S. Awesome monitor and stand...

[DiaboliK]

G5 not MacPro

if you cant tell the difference, i feel bad for you.

Hot damn, nice job!

Looks really nice, looks just like a Mac Pro!

Also, I see you have the same desk as me

Congratulations.

[olinboy1]

Since you're using an ASUS board (P5E?) and a corded alu pro apple keyboard, have you ever had any problems with the BIOS hanging at POST? I ask because I have an ASUS P5K Deluxe and I can't seem to get the keyboard to play nice with this board. It just will not let the machine get past the POST. When I use it with my older Sony Vaio "hac" it works just fine.

[nervouschimp]

Since you're using an ASUS board (P5E?) and a corded alu pro apple keyboard, have you ever had any problems with the BIOS hanging at POST? I ask because I have an ASUS P5K Deluxe and I can't seem to get the keyboard to play nice with this board. It just will not let the machine get past the POST. When I use it with my older Sony Vaio "hac" it works just fine.

No problems at all.

[teknojunkie]

No problems at all.

get another 30 incher and your set, that monitor on the G5 would be a nice idea.

[nervouschimp]

I was in Seattle over the weekend, and It turns out a friend of my wife has done a completely passively-cooled G5 mod that utilizes a dual-opteron board.

Heres a couple quick photos I snagged of Jake's passive G5:





All the heat-pipes are routed to the giant heat sink attached to the rear, and any IO is now routed through the PCI brackets. Pretty cool, and completely silent!

[CaptHowie]

Nice, but Xeons are better...

howie

[nervouschimp]

Nice, but Xeons are better...

howie

students can't always afford xeons. besides, he doesn't need xeons. he built this box on a tight budget. if someone wants expensive xeons, they might as well get a real mac pro.

but he doesn't run mac OS on it.... he's an XP guy.

.... anyway, the goal here was silent computing.... guess you missed that part...

[CaptHowie]

Soz, just not an AMD guy. Also didn't know he was building it on a budget... nice job though, neat and tidy and by the look of it, mighty silent, especially with that huge heatsink at the back.

howie

[CaptHowie]

Can anyone recommend a good ATX (or mATX) motherboard that works near 100% (or 100%)? Looking to find one for my G5 mod.

howie