guice Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I have successfully installed and ran WoW on my Hackintosh system, but it runs horribly bad, not antialised and just very poor frame rate. It looks like it's doing a CPU rendering not GPU. How can I fix this? Here's my specs: JaS 10.4.8 AMD 3600+ 1g RAM Nvidia 6800GT I have, what appears, both Naiti and Titian drives installed (conflicting?). Upon boot, both of them fully recognize the card and I have a full selection of resolutions and framerates. I see people mentioning you must have "QE/CI enabled," what is that? WoW is the LAST program I need working from WinXP for me to stop booting into XP forever. Right now, in my current setup, it runs worse far than it did in Cedega on Linux. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Well, I got an FPS rating now (after getting all my mods back installed). I get 10-13 FPS, with all settings down to lowest possible. That's not good. Far worse than what I got in Cedega on Linux. Is there something I'm missing? Here's my Vid Card specs: Chipset Model: nVidia GeForce 6800 Series GPU Type: Display Bus: PCIe VRAM (Total): 256 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x00f9 Revision ID: 0x00a2 Displays: Display: Status: No display connected VX900-2: Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz Depth: 32-bit Color Core Image: Supported Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported I see that QE and CI are enabled. So I'm at a loss now. I'm using the Natit drivers. I've uninstalled Titan, so no driver conflicts here. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 No secret but sadly true: I boot m$ for gaming... Rgds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 only use one , either titan or natit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errandwolfe Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 How exactly do you test your FPS on WoW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbiggo Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Hi Guice! I'm having a DualBoot Setup (XP and OSX) as many of us... See Specs in my Sig... I reading the FPS using the Titan Panel Performance Display. Before I upgraded my Rig from a P4 3,2GHz / 3GB / 6600GT to a C2D E6600 / 2GB / Asus EN7900GS TOP with medium settings I only managed to get 20-30FPS looking to a wall 50-60FPS. Thus I was playing WoW mainly under WinXP especially during Raids. After updating my Rig, with everything set to the max on a 20" Cinema Display (1680x1050) I'm having an average of 40-50FPS. When looking to a wall I'm getting high 80s and 90s. Now I'm only using WinXP for G.R.A.W., R6 Vegas, NFS Carbon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) No secret but sadly true:I boot m$ for gaming... I don't get it though. I've read posts on people getting 70 FPS using Hackintosh. Granted, they were using a 7x series card, it would only mean a slight decrease, maybe 40-50 fps, on my 6800GT. only use one , either titan or natit I've removed Titan. How exactly do you test your FPS on WoW? I have FuBar installed with Performancing add-on. It shows me the RAM used by add-ons, my latency and my current FPS. @djbiggo - Yeah, I have no problems with FPS in Windows. It's on Hackintosh that it's horrid, worse than Cedega in Linux, which I find really odd. Why would Cedega, in Linux, work better than running Hackintosh client natively? Edited February 21, 2007 by guice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 You have a problem there, that's for sure. Should run almost as fast as in Windows, providing you checked Trilenear filtering, unchecked bloom effect (full screen effect) and disabled FSAA (which you seem to have done). Maybe the 6xxx series don't run that well in OSX ? After all, they are unsupported cards opposite to the 7xxx ones. Sorry, but I can't help you You should try with another card just to be sure if the problem is from there or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 Maybe the 6xxx series don't run that well in OSX ? After all, they are unsupported cards opposite to the 7xxx ones. Sorry, but I can't help you You should try with another card just to be sure if the problem is from there or not. You know. I am almost tempted to jump out and get a 7xxx series card, like a 7600GT (the highest one Macs have, currently). But, I really don't want to dump $200 onto a video card at this time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Gad nabbit. I just ran the Prey demo and it ran smoothly, a few extremely minor shuffles -- but that's to be expected even in Windows. Now what should I look for? ugh. I found this on Mac World of Warcraft Performance: World of Warcraft runs like a dog, independant of settings i choose. This is a widespread problem for anyone with a 6800 series card. Link (very bottom of page): http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/games/mac_wow_performance.html Looks like this is a 6800 specific issue. /cries Edited February 23, 2007 by guice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspr Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Hello, I installed WoW 3 and for me it works fine... I'm using a Gigabyte 6600GT PCI Expres as you can see in my sign Edited February 23, 2007 by mspr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) WoW 3? You mean Warcraft III? Because World of Warcraft and Warcraft are completely two different games. One's FPS and other is RTS. Warcraft III doesn't use nearly as much as the video card as WoW. Anyway, I've upgraded to a 7900GT and it's working much better. It's still not what I would expect in Windows, but it works. Actually, now that I think about it, it might actually be comparable OpenGL on Windows. I do remember there being a performance decrease when I ran WoW in OpenGL a year ago in a test. Edited February 23, 2007 by guice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 So the 6xxx is definitly slow in OSX and the drivers are really poor ? Feel free to modify your video options like I said above, it will increase your FPS A LOT (will be comparable to its D3D counterpart) without any big visual loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 the game is pretty amazing on my setup (7600gt/core 2 duo) on my hackintosh. i get maybe 10 frames more in windows, and it can sometimes feel "smoother" when loading new zones or lots of objects, but i still get 70 to over 100 fps on my hackintosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errandwolfe Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Wow, 70-100 FPS! I am averaging about 35 FPS. Specs in my sig. Update: After tweaking my settings as mentioned in the above article averaging more like 45 FPS. Running in Windowed mode, 1024x768. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 So the 6xxx is definitly slow in OSX and the drivers are really poor ? It's more the 6800GT and WoW combo. The 6800 worked very well within the Prey demo. I received no more "glitches" than I would have expected from within Windows. the game is pretty amazing on my setup (7600gt/core 2 duo) on my hackintosh. i get maybe 10 frames more in windows, and it can sometimes feel "smoother" when loading new zones or lots of objects, but i still get 70 to over 100 fps on my hackintosh. 70 to 100? Wow, how'd you do that? My settings are on par, if not slightly less, than what I would normally use in Windows, and I don't even come close to the FPS I had within the Windows client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 i play at 1280x960 resolution. the huge performance boost came when blizzard enabled SMP opengl in WoW a few patches ago, make sure its on by doing this in game : /console GLFaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 27, 2007 Author Share Posted February 27, 2007 i play at 1280x960 resolution. the huge performance boost came when blizzard enabled SMP opengl in WoW a few patches ago, make sure its on by doing this in game : /console GLFaster 2 You know what, I did that a couple days ago and you're right; it's a tramendious difference! I'm averaging 40-50fps now, sometimes hitting 70-80 depending on terrain. It does make quite a difference. /hug OpenGL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiendskull9 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 hmmm i have a 6800xt and it runs WC3 at ~80 fps with everything on high, and quake 3 is running at 120 (i managed to uncap the engine by poking with the source) im really considering upgrading as well to a 7 series -clay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guice Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 hmmm i have a 6800xt and it runs WC3 at ~80 fps with everything on high, and quake 3 is running at 120 (i managed to uncap the engine by poking with the source) im really considering upgrading as well to a 7 series Upgrade is worth it, but I do need to point out one thing: WC3 != WoW. Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft are two completely different games on two completely different graphic engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3p0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 If you play WOW, do you really need an operating system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 (edited) If you play WOW, do you really need an operating system? Is it a sarcastic comment? [sarcastic]If you surf net, do you really need an operating system?[/sarcastic] Edited March 1, 2007 by vin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Actually what you DON'T need to play WoW is ............. a life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You know what, I did that a couple days ago and you're right; it's a tramendious difference! I'm averaging 40-50fps now, sometimes hitting 70-80 depending on terrain. It does make quite a difference. /hug OpenGL So you have the same performance and quality now under OSX compared to Windows XP? Because I am running a P4 3.0Ghz Northwood SSE2, 1.5GB Ram and a 6600GT and I can turn everything to max in Windows XP and the framerate like never drops under 20 anywhere. If I did that in OSX the game just doesn't run. Or you got a Prescott with SSE3 support? That might be the problem. Edit: I see you got a Prescott in your signature, well I guess I need to find a Prescott instead of a Northwood, though they seem to make a lot more heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoNeS Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 seems to me that wow runs a bit faster on my hackintosh (core2duo, atix1600pro etc.) than on my "pc". all graphic-features are turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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