Samsung NC10 UK revision, Updates / Installation / Modding etc, stuff will be here Options

[ Mysticus C*]

Mysticus, should I update to 10.5.5 with the NC 1.0 Installer now or wait for your NC1.1.0? Since it has many enhanced fixed
If I update it now, will I still able to use NC10 1.1.0 Installer?

use 1.1.0 as this:

+ first install official combo update 10.5.5 (or delta update 10.5.5 since you already have 10.5.4 no need for 10.5.5 combo)
+ do not restart after the official update, minimize it!!!
+ run 1.1.0 installer
+ choose nc10 and update fixer before restart (no need to choose permissions fix)
+ once everything finished? you can restart and wait patiently while it restarts one more time... dont panic it is normal and comes from the original update!

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TO EVERYONE:
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I worked out all the kinks in the upgraded dvd... so i ll make the files and script available tonight/or/tomorrow morning/ hopefully...
+ this procedure will require you to have an original Jas, or NC10 -- ISO file
+ you will need to run terminal with 2-3 easy line of codes and all will work automatically... (codes u ll need to run will be: sudo su, pass, cd /dvdupgrade, ./dvdjas.sh or ./dvdnc10.sh, rest will be done automatically)
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After the Upgrade: You will have a 10.5.5 nc10 dvd... currently it is not important as many of you already installed 10.5.4... and updated it to 10.5.5 however this is an important step for future updates! you can always keep latest copy of the dvd and no need to update it again when you make a brand new install...
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I know that there are still some minor issues but i m working on this thing alone, and things take time, so i rushed most of the things, and have minor issues, which i will iron out one by one, and this thing will be near perfect

As you can see i made a dvd ppf ready in 1.5 days and 2-3 days found a procedure to get 10.5.5 implemented into current dvd project (in theory i can apply this ppf thing to any current dvd as well i like the jas version becuase of its plainness, and apart from certain necessary files, everything is vanilla here... i dont use msiwind because of the boot 132 procedure...
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Ok back to work now... cheers..

[darkgemini]

Thank you for your guide Mysticus, and I'm so sorry for keep asking you question 'cause I'm first time Mac user here
Things I run into right now on NC10 OSX 10.5.4
- scrolling seem not to work
- It doesn't detect my battery, in fact it doesn't show the battery icon at all
- The Apple Key is the Alt instead of the Windows Key
- Windows cannot move above the menu bar

Other than that, it runs very smooth thank to your work
where can I get the delta update 10.5.5? ----Found it guys, it's on Apple site

Thank your very much, Mate

[RealRooster]

Thank you for your guide Mysticus, and I'm so sorry for keep asking you question 'cause I'm first time Mac user here
Things I run into right now on NC10 OSX 10.5.4
- scrolling seem not to work
- It doesn't detect my battery, in fact it doesn't show the battery icon at all
- The Apple Key is the Alt instead of the Windows Key
- Windows cannot move above the menu bar

Other than that, it runs very smooth thank to your work
where can I get the delta update 10.5.5?

Thank your very much, Mate

- For the battery issue, please check the post 248 of this topic. You can find it from the page 13. Works as a charm.
- You can re-assign some of your keyboard buttons in System Preferences under Keyboard & Mouse >> Keyboard >> Modifier Keys...
You can assign the Command key to be "Windows" button, or what ever you want.
- In OS X you're not able to move any window above the menu bar. That's just a way how it works. We have to admit that in some cases 10" screen is just a little bit too small.
- Your scrolling issue is something which doesn't ring my bell. You mean the scrolling with mouse or what?

[darkgemini]

it's the scrolling area on the right side of the trackpad. Is it normally don't work in Mac also

Update:
- Just fixed the battery issue using post 248 method. Thank RealRooster

If we cann't not move window above menu bar, is there anyway to resize the windows...I mean some of the windows (setting, space setting...) won't let you resize by draging the corner...can we resize them to make it visible

[mudzilla]

I too have the Dell 1390 in my NC10, and it shows up as a USB Ethernet (en0) in the Network Prefs.

It never autoconnects, and if the Airport icon is in the men bar, I can't connect with it, as it never allows me to turn the Airport on. I can turn it on in the Network Prefs pane, then select my network, but have to do this everytime I boot up.

Any clues?

[RealRooster]

it's the scrolling area on the right side of the trackpad. Is it normally don't work in Mac also

Update:
- Just fixed the battery issue using post 248 method. Thank RealRooster

If we cann't not move window above menu bar, is there anyway to resize the windows...I mean some of the windows (setting, space setting...) won't let you resize by draging the corner...can we resize them to make it visible

Scrolling area of the trackpad doesn't seem to work.
I have been using the USB mouse all this time, so didn't notice that earlier. Well for me at least that's not a show stopper.

Unfortunately you cannot change the size of all windows. You need that corner with lines in order to change the size.
I don't have any work around for that either, so you just have to live with it.
Unless you change your screen resolution temporary to little bit higher and so would able to see the whole window.
http://forums.msiwind.net/mac/change-resol...deye-t5777.html
I haven't tried that, so I'm not even sure will it work with NC10.

[ Mysticus C*]

darkgemini:
+ resizing works only from the bottom right corner of each window... that is teh way it works in osx
+ scrolling from side of touchpad is a driver related issue, and does not work with current drivers and i dunno if it ever worked in real macs that way either...
+ keyb/mouse menu in system settings for tapping from the touch pad and/or changing couple of key assignments of the keyboard (only 3-4 keys are allowed not the entire layout... so some certain keys still will not be in where they should be due to the custom layout of keys on these netbooks)
+ the battery issue is caused by one driver which i explained earlier as rooster mentioned, i forgot one driver which causes conflict... to enable battery read the post rooster mentioned...

+ for the delta update, just learn to use google please... google is very handy if you know how to use keywords... clue? 10.5.5 delta update apple, see the first link comes out not that hard?

[darkgemini]

Thank you Mysticus, I successfully update mine to 10.5.5. I actually found the delta update (using goolge) before you told me to

I also found this guide which claim to enable the two fingers scrolling in Synaptic trackpad. I haven't try yet, but I think it should work because NC10 does has multi-touch Synaptic pad.

Will make a donation when I go back from school

[ Mysticus C*]

Thank you Mysticus, I successfully update mine to 10.5.5. I actually found the delta update (using goolge) before you told me to

I also found this guide which claim to enable the two fingers scrolling in Synaptic trackpad. I haven't try yet, but I think it should work because NC10 does has multi-touch Synaptic pad.

Will make a donation when I go back from school

i know the trackpad drivers and i read those long time ago, but those drivers have some issues as well... i may include this work around and patches, but it will not be in the main package, more likely test packages section...

I am currently testing some vanilla drivers for the acpi issue (in the sleep function, when the power is connected system wakes up immediately due to some usb activity where as it does not happen when on battery only... this is indicating an acpi control issue... when on power keeps feeding current to usb ports, and stops it when on battery only)

dunno the outcome yet but will see...

in the mean time, i m finally wrapping up the dvd upgrade scripts so that it will work smoothly...

[Mr_CP]

Thank you Mysticus, I successfully update mine to 10.5.5. I actually found the delta update (using goolge) before you told me to

I also found this guide which claim to enable the two fingers scrolling in Synaptic trackpad. I haven't try yet, but I think it should work because NC10 does has multi-touch Synaptic pad.

Will make a donation when I go back from school

I had a look at that guide, the first thing it mentions is that
*CARE* DO NOT USE THIS WITH A SENTELIC PAD (corners already scroll) It seems to stop the mouse working at all without a driver reinstall.
which is essentially what the NC10 has, i.e. the scrolling bar on the right and also along the bottom of the touchpad, so i would try it with caution if not at all, although the NC10 does the functions of the Synaptic trackpad it would be a bit of a pain trying to find the drivers for the mouse if it is indeed sentelic.

[ngreg01]

Scrolling area of the trackpad doesn't seem to work.
I have been using the USB mouse all this time, so didn't notice that earlier. Well for me at least that's not a show stopper.

Unfortunately you cannot change the size of all windows. You need that corner with lines in order to change the size.
I don't have any work around for that either, so you just have to live with it.
Unless you change your screen resolution temporary to little bit higher and so would able to see the whole window.
http://forums.msiwind.net/mac/change-resol...deye-t5777.html
I haven't tried that, so I'm not even sure will it work with NC10.

I tried the method in the above link and it works, I changed the resolution to 1280x750, but it's a bit hard to see as the fonts become very small, I think it's not good for our eyes.

Is it necessary to update the nc10 1.1 package for the guys who already installed the 1.0 package with 10.5.5 update?

[JMcNevan]

I'm very new to this, so sorry if this is a dumb question..

Is it possible to use a retail version of leopard instead of the iso version and still loosely follow the guide that Mysticus C wrote?

[ Mysticus C*]

I'm very new to this, so sorry if this is a dumb question..

Is it possible to use a retail version of leopard instead of the iso version and still loosely follow the guide that Mysticus C wrote?

the dvd project i brought out installs pretty much everything in vanilla (original form) to certain level where you need the patched drivers in order to get PM, keyb/touchpad/vga/audio working... apart from the drivers in nc10 pack, the dvd will be pretty much vanilla retail leo install requires an installed osx... you cant directly install it, simply because it will not install bootloader that is needed to boot it...

+ you need an osx version installed before you can do the retail install...
+ you can follow everything else, but i ll not give too much support anything other than nc10 dvd, it makes it hard to track down user errors and dvd contents/drivers...

[ Mysticus C*]

Update News:

+ DVD Upgrade Project is working however I will not release a ppf (not that i didnt do, but it became 1.5 gb of difference meaning ~700 mb combo update + other small packages, and removing ~1gb of data from original dvd... etc... i still dont think it should be that big, but no way i m releasing 1.5 gb ppf)

+ On the other hand, If i use only the script, it will be only 30-40 mb range... but you will still need to download combo 10.5.5 update and put it in the project directory before running the script or maybe installer will handle everything

Another issue that as soon as you are on 10.5.5 system, you will get an error in the console saying something like:

CODE

mDNSResponder[23] WARNING: sandbox_init error Could not set Mach lookup policy for service com.apple.bsd.dirhelper err=1100Could not set Mach lookup policy for service com.apple.distributed_notifications.2 err=1100Could not set Mach lookup policy for service com.apple.ocspd err=1100Could not set Mach lookup policy for service com.apple.mDNSResponderHelper err=1100Could not set Mach lookup policy for service com.apple.SecurityServer err=1100Could not set Mach lookup policy for service com.apple.SystemConfiguration.configd...

this is notthing to do with the dvd or installation process: It is caused by 10.5.5 update and all the macs are effected as well! security update 2008-07 solves this problem... After installing the dvd, i made software update to update everything... it worked just fine... didnt do any trick.. and the error is gone...

[ Mysticus C*]

Currently the dvd upgrade project is ready, but procedures involved makes me think twice so it is delaying a bit...

Project works perfectly fine on my system, however many of you have jas original and/or nc10 dvd (both dvd iso names are same but mounted volume names are different)... and some of you are already using ddmac image on the hdd (meaning if the iso is mounted again it will have a duplicate name with "1" addition in the name)...

I m just trying to make the process involve all the possibilities so that NOOBs dont mess up everything... process is fairly simple but because of the variety of possibilities makes this process slow to implement so it will work in all conditions... Sorry for the delay...

[eddy_ridley]

ok well search for the jas and the nc10 dvd's found the jas with 30k download speed. so any idea's of a fast download link please? or will i be better off waiting for this new update dvd ?

[ Mysticus C*]

UPDATE NEWS:

DVD upgrade procedure is done, testing now with all the possible combinations to make sure everything runs correctly...

Once the tests done, i will make the packages ready along with the instructions... soon...

eddy: you still need Jas dvd... i will not share the full dvd... maybe once finished, someone can torrent it... but i wont...

[RT91]

Hello all first of all a huge thanks to Mysticus C*
I'm running the msiwind0sx86.iso(took me a long time to download) and sadly i don't think i'd have the patience to download the jas one,as a user said wi-fi is now possible using the stock wi-fi card but does anyone know how to update the msiwindosx86.iso to 10.5.5 when i tried(around four times)i just get the Boot,crash,reboot,select mac os,crash,reboot.

And sadly the airport extreme update to possibly get the stock wi-fi card working needs 10.5.5

Iv got my device to recognize the card but it won't work without the airport extreme update

Any ideas?
thanks

Once again THANKS FOR THIS GREAT GUIDE

[ Mysticus C*]

Hello all first of all a huge thanks to Mysticus C*
I'm running the msiwind0sx86.iso(took me a long time to download) and sadly i don't think i'd have the patience to download the jas one,as a user said wi-fi is now possible using the stock wi-fi card but does anyone know how to update the msiwindosx86.iso to 10.5.5 when i tried(around four times)i just get the Boot,crash,reboot,select mac os,crash,reboot.

And sadly the airport extreme update to possibly get the stock wi-fi card working needs 10.5.5

Iv got my device to recognize the card but it won't work without the airport extreme update

Any ideas?
thanks

Once again THANKS FOR THIS GREAT GUIDE

ARE YOU SURE IT IS SAMSUNG NC10 STOCK WIFI WORKS AFTER AIRPORT UPDATE? AND NOT THE MSI WIND WIFI?

have not heard from anyone get the stock wifi working with airport update only... we know that there is a way, a painful way to make it work, but not with the stock drivers without patching...

for your update to 10.5.5, you need to set bios options correctly, see my pdf guide page 54!

and i m not gonna provide any package solution specific to msi wind...

if you dont have patience to download jas, you will need to figure out the kinks on your nc10 on your own mate... sorry, someone else may help but i will not go down the way to debug msi wind problems errors issues etc...

current ppfed dvd is perfectly fine and will get even better very very soon DVD Project is FINISHED...

Here is a sneak peak:


I need to upload the files to bike town and write the necessary instructions although it is straight forward, you need to copy the iso and (download) combo update pkg file to root of your working osx partition... (iso copy is not necessary for ddmac partition upgrade, iso is needed for iso upgrade, however combo update pkg is still needed to up copied to root...)

Wait is almost over... I m just tired to upload, and write down any info at the moment...

cheers and thanx for patience...

[RT91]

ARE YOU SURE IT IS SAMSUNG NC10 STOCK WIFI WORKS AFTER AIRPORT UPDATE? AND NOT THE MSI WIND WIFI?

have not heard from anyone get the stock wifi working with airport update only... we know that there is a way, a painful way to make it work, but not with the stock drivers without patching...

for your update to 10.5.5, you need to set bios options correctly, see my pdf guide page 54!

and i m not gonna provide any package solution specific to msi wind...

if you dont have patience to download jas, you will need to figure out the kinks on your nc10 on your own mate... sorry, someone else may help but i will not go down the way to debug msi wind problems errors issues etc...

current ppfed dvd is perfectly fine and will get even better very very soon DVD Project is almost finished...

100% sure,
i'm trying to find the link but can't remember where i saw it
I'll be in England after xmas will download jas then,unless in the mean time i get a dell card i'll stick with that and not bother getting the stock wi-fi card working

Found it:few links to forum,blog and other blog
http://myi4u.me/?x=entry:entry081203-133425

http://netbook-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=64

http://allmyreviews.info/?x=entry:entry081203-094446


So anyone know how to get round the apple airport extreme 2008004 10.5.5 limit?As if there is a way i'd be able to test the wi-fi and post back here..

And just to add thanks for your driver pack installed and now got usb and sd card working...No need to plug in memory stick before booting anymore