Samsung NC10 UK revision, Updates / Installation / Modding etc, stuff will be here Options

[ Mysticus C*]

Hi

thanks for the quick reply, information requested:-

black model, UK, KA02Uk listed on the back
yes, MSIWINDOSX86 has been previously installed


I will double check BIOS settings and let you know the outcome

Really appreciate all your help


apolgies i did not have the EDB setting enabled (could have sworn that I had), anyway when I did this it has booted. Will I need to re-install again or should everything be ok.

everything should be good to go...

cheers... damn i was scared that i made something wrong again, i started reinstalling the dvd to see if i missed anything..

BLACK UK model here too... u made me piss my pants almost

[jooster]

sorry, wifi working with wifi card taken from apple tv.

two questions: - should sleep work as it doe snot appear to be at the moment.
will any of the virtualisation packages work e.g. vm ware fusion or parallels

will be posting donation to you later in the day, keep up the fantastic work

[ Mysticus C*]

sorry, wifi working with wifi card taken from apple tv.

two questions: - should sleep work as it doe snot appear to be at the moment.
will any of the virtualisation packages work e.g. vm ware fusion or parallels

will be posting donation to you later in the day, keep up the fantastic work

read my comment about sleep i m still trying to figure out but could not find solution

sleep works on battery only
sleep works for 1 sec on power connected and wakes up, when i checked the sys logs, it shows a sign of usb activity, the only thins i usually see for this issue is always pointing me to bluetooth direction... which is connected to an internal usb port... and cant be software OFFed (switched off i mean)... so when it is on power, it keeps sending/receiving signals, however when on battery only it does not!... take the power cable and see your self..

virtualization should work however keep in mind that this does not have a ferrari engine and juice to suck it all you know what i mean?

also: always read post#1 i will rearrange it soon to make it more infomative... about udpates / guides /links etc...

cheers... for the donation as well and good luck...

[myi4u]

myi4u: vanilla kernel means original apple kernel, it does not mean its name is vanilla! its name is darwin!

oic ... so, is there a way to check if the darwin kernel that i have is the original vanilla version rather than the patched version? Or is it not relevant at all?

btw, is it still alright to install your samsung patch to it? I believe that your answer is that i have to find out myself?

thanks a lot

[ Mysticus C*]

oic ... so, is there a way to check if the darwin kernel that i have is the original vanilla version rather than the patched version? Or is it not relevant at all?

btw, is it still alright to install your samsung patch to it? I believe that your answer is that i have to find out myself?

thanks a lot

open terminal: and type: uname -a
it will say a full line, read it carefully, it says anything like ToH or VooDoo it is not original...
normally it will say 9.x.x (x are version numbers) Darwin Kernel version 9.x.x

samsung patch is applied to Jas 10.5.4 server/client DVD and converts it to Samsung NC10 plain installation DVD

like i said in first post... more projects coming such as: a small script to convert your 10.5.4 DVD iso to 10.5.5 or 10.5.6 dvd iso without you knowing anything...

[myi4u]

open terminal: and type: uname -a
it will say a full line, read it carefully, it says anything like ToH or VooDoo it is not original...
normally it will say 9.x.x (x are version numbers) Darwin Kernel version 9.x.x

samsung patch is applied to Jas 10.5.4 server/client DVD and converts it to Samsung NC10 plain installation DVD

like i said in first post... more projects coming such as: a small script to convert your 10.5.4 DVD iso to 10.5.5 or 10.5.6 dvd iso without you knowing anything...

that's great... Thanks for the guide and everything that you have done. Fast reply too.

i am still not satisfied with no wifi but i intend to find out the kismac method even though it did not work for me the first time. actually, i did something stupid and messed up my Mac. i will be installing it again this weekend and i will use ur guide of partitioning so that i dont have to use the dvd again.

after a fresh install, i hope that i will get the wifi working ... still, i dont have much hope because i am too inexperience

[freefingers]

First of all a BIG thanks to Mysticus C* as the work you have done here is amazing and the fact that you are supporting it like you are is even more impressive - so thanks.

I'm on the verge of buying a netbook (partly because I can't afford a macbook right now, and partly because the graphics card on my beautiful 17" Powerbook has blown so have had to disable it and therefore can't use some applications properly eg. iphoto slideshow, itunes coverflow), and up until Mysticus C* performed his magic (on what the reviews are saying is quite clearly the best 10" netbook out there) I was going to buy an MSI Wind as it appeared to have the best support community and hence the most stable kit.

So, to come to my question/s....how are people getting on with their NC10's? Is it stable for full time use? Is video good quality? Do you get kernel panics? Is everything (that Mysticus C* has got working) actually working for everyone? etc, etc.

Would really appreicate peoples reply before I go out and buy one of these baby's...

Thanks

[ Mysticus C*]

First of all a BIG thanks to Mysticus C* as the work you have done here is amazing and the fact that you are supporting it like you are is even more impressive - so thanks.

I'm on the verge of buying a netbook (partly because I can't afford a macbook right now, and partly because the graphics card on my beautiful 17" Powerbook has blown so have had to disable it and therefore can't use some applications properly eg. iphoto slideshow, itunes coverflow), and up until Mysticus C* performed his magic (on what the reviews are saying is quite clearly the best 10" netbook out there) I was going to buy an MSI Wind as it appeared to have the best support community and hence the most stable kit.

So, to come to my question/s....how are people getting on with their NC10's? Is it stable for full time use? Is video good quality? Do you get kernel panics? Is everything (that Mysticus C* has got working) actually working for everyone? etc, etc.

Would really appreicate peoples reply before I go out and buy one of these baby's...

Thanks

i have the black UK model, and it is working perfectly fine even for long use, didnt have come to a trouble so far watching movies etc... but didnt try iphoto or video/pic editing software as well...

the current situation is that 95% the things work fine, however there are some glitches as well...

glitches are:

+ sleep when power adapter connected does not work (it works but wakes up instantly due to usb activity and the only one comes to question is bluetooth adapter! it is sending signals while on power adapter, causing wake event, however when on soly battery, it works just fine... so it is a glitch to sort out later..
+ LAN -- no drivers no work... (if lan is important get yourself an apple usb lan )
+ original WIFI, some what there is a workaround looks like but it is too buggy and will require you to constantly replace files every other updates... just get yourself a dell dw 1490 adapter you will forget about the issues
+ mic and headphone issues since drivers are not modded for these models yet, they dont work well, there is a switch script to enable headphone but still a work in progress (same with wind with a little step ahead with programs that does teh job automatically but still you need to press buttons to switch headphone/speaker)
+ brightness control...

these are teh glitches but i think liveable with...

so it comes down to your choice and willingness...

[intrax]

@Mysticus C

Thanks your answer before !

First of all a BIG thanks to Mysticus C* as the work you have done here is amazing and the fact that you are supporting it like you are is even more impressive - so thanks.

I'm on the verge of buying a netbook (partly because I can't afford a macbook right now, and partly because the graphics card on my beautiful 17" Powerbook has blown so have had to disable it and therefore can't use some applications properly eg. iphoto slideshow, itunes coverflow), and up until Mysticus C* performed his magic (on what the reviews are saying is quite clearly the best 10" netbook out there) I was going to buy an MSI Wind as it appeared to have the best support community and hence the most stable kit.

So, to come to my question/s....how are people getting on with their NC10's? Is it stable for full time use? Is video good quality? Do you get kernel panics? Is everything (that Mysticus C* has got working) actually working for everyone? etc, etc.

Would really appreicate peoples reply before I go out and buy one of these baby's...

Thanks

my reply is found here...

[Markino76]

Many thanks Mysticus for all you've done!


Because of I've got an original Leopard dvd, is it possible to install Leopard from the original dvd after the standard installation applying some kind of package-pach on top?
I'd like to fomrat all the disk and install a fresh installation from an external usb dvd on my future NC10 ... what do you think it's the best way to do it?

Can be used bootcamp in the NC10?

[jooster]

can I just confirm something please on the update to 10.5.5.

Can you confirm that the steps are:-

Install Combo updater from apple but DO NOT restart
Install NC10 with the following settings

Kernel: 9.5.0 vanilla with fix, Chipset: ICHx, Audio, Network: Nothing, System Function: PS2-fix1, (i will replace the ps2 driver later, as it has sleep issue...), of course Stage 3 dsmos fix

Should video not be ticked as well.

Let the machine reboot twice and all should be well, I did this last time and even on battery power sleep did not seem to want to work so I was wondering if I had missed something.

[ Mysticus C*]

What I found sofar:

Samsung nc10 is having the better 6-cell battery, which could give you about 5 hours working time, but no lan connectivity in osx86 as the Marvell Yukon 88W8040 is not supported. This will be solved over time as a lot more people would like a driver for this baby. Audio not fully sorted.

MSI-wind has the battery problem (only 3-cells) that is here in NL. In other countries the 6-cell might be available. Everything working in OSX except proper audio. MSI-wind is able to overclock the Atom processor and generally better compatible to OSX imho.

Both netbooks lack oob wifi compatibility and you need to swap the wifi card on both models for a Dell 1490 card oss, which will give them airport capability

Would go for an MSI-wind if your main focus is on OSX and if you can get the 6-cell battery model in your country.

Happy shopping !...

wind<========>nc10
+wind has 8.9inc screen vs 10.2 nc10
+3cell battery vs 6cell
+lan, wifi and sound issues are same
+screen quality probably same since they are both made by SAMSUNG
+storage are optional choices (not bad with nc10 )
+overclocking doesnt mean a good thing on a laptop with tiny space and no better fan options... prove me wrong but apple is frying many new boards already on new macbooks if you read around... and think of o/c a atom in a tiny piece with no modded fan/heatsink think twice!

hardware specs are pretty much identical, apart from size of screen and storage etc, so i dont see why msi wind is a better option?? with a smaller screen lower specs overall... just because it came out earlier and more popular (bcoz of price) does not make it ideal choice for everyone...

if you have a chance to see these two machines side by side in a local store, i suggest you to go do it, and see for yourself...

1inc+ screensize will make huge difference! and performance wise, cpu o/c is a bad shot for long term! u can get better performance by getting better parts like ssd (cheaper option is to build yourself with a sata 2.5 case with raid for two CF cards search around you will get a similar desktop performance with laptop power in terms o hdd performance) or get a 7200 rpm better quality hdd... a bit ram upgrade... you will have ultimate machine with samsung...

just my thoughts...

jooster: correct i forgot video my bad so sorry... i will edit the information

[intrax]

Sorry Mysticus C have to correct you on this one:

The screen sizes are identical i.e 10.2 inch. There is however an 8.9 inch version of the msi-wind, which usually comes with linux and an 80Gb drive.

Main disadvantage for the nc10: no lan (on osx)
Main disadvantage for the wind: no 6 cell battery (can be bought separately or might be included in your country not in nl at this moment however)

On the other specs both are more or less identical I agree, but being able to tune and overclock the wind is something most tweakers like a lot. Make sure though you respect the cooling issues as you might fry the board if you don't know what you're doing. However lots of info on this on the boards.

[ Mysticus C*]

Sorry Mysticus C have to correct you on this one:

The screen sizes are identical i.e 10.2 inch. There is however an 8.9 inch version of the msi-wind, which usually comes with linux and an 80Gb drive.

Main disadvantage for the nc10: no lan
Main disadvantage for the wind: no 6 cell battery

On the other specs both are more or less identical I agree, but being able to tune and overclock the wind is something most tweakers like a lot. Make sure though you respect the cooling issues as you might fry the board if you don't know what you're doing. However lots of info on this on the boards.

well no lan issue for nc10 but if it is def a must, than probably nc10 is not for everyone, however i still insist on O/C side that is not a good thing at all on notebook, if you dont have access to better heatsink/fan and most importantly knowledge... apple's new macbooks are frying recently if you read around and they are not even o/c

so this choices are really down to people's expectations and budget and the willingness... i suggst go check both in a local store and find which one you like more...

[myi4u]

can i ask something here? Anyone of you able to run iPhoto using NC10?

I tried it but it says incompatible graphic chipset.

[ Mysticus C*]

can i ask something here? Anyone of you able to run iPhoto using NC10?

I tried it but it says incompatible graphic chipset.

i have not tried it but will let you know in couple of mins...

working just fine: are you sure you installed gfx drivers?

[Xeo84]

i installed and ran iphoto correctly.
but only started not used yet!

[intrax]

so this choices are really down to people's expectations and budget and the willingness... i suggst go check both in a local store and find which one you like more...

I agree...

[carlito86]

Mysticus what do you think of an additional hard drive?I was thinking about substituting the internal 160 G with a 320G hard drive made by Samsung,will I have any problem or will it drain more power?and what about a 7200?will I see any real benefits?I?m pretty sure it's gonna consume more energy...

and more important:how is Leopard running?is it fast,slow,normal???everyone here's got it but no one tells anything about how the OS goes...

[ Mysticus C*]

Mysticus what do you think of an additional hard drive?I was thinking about substituting the internal 160 G with a 320G hard drive made by Samsung,will I have any problem or will it drain more power?and what about a 7200?will I see any real benefits?I?m pretty sure it's gonna consume more energy...

and more important:how is Leopard running?is it fast,slow,normal???everyone here's got it but no one tells anything about how the OS goes...

os boots with 10.5.4 at ~50 secs from the time you hit enter osx selection to usable state

os boots with 10.5.5 at about ~30 secs from the time you hit enter to osx selction to usable state (i dont know why it works like that but it is ) maybe kernel/driver detection maybe some improvements...)

copy operations sux, it takes long compared to normal desktops... for obvious reasons...

on my other laptop (totaly different and not related) i replaced my 5400 one with a 7200rpm (with 16mb cache), and performance was very noticable, from 20mb-> 30mb write speeds...
this can be due to model/type as well, not all 7200 rpms performs the same... so make sure what you are buying...

for power wise, it will take 10-15% more power maybe, but this can be adjusted with the value of time as well...

say you run/copy things 20-30% faster but consume a bit more energy vs, copy things slower but consume less, so over time, in my opinion, it may be a slight difference, this has been discussed and i answered the question... but you can not know everytg until you install and try and see with your own eyes...

TO EVERYONE:
I dont wanna be RUDE but.... From now on...
This topic/section is not the place for buying advices / compatibility / review questions, See "Buying Thoughts, Reviews, and Recommendations" section of the forum, and keep THIS TOPIC clean please. The title of this topic is Samsung NC10 installations/mods etc... Meaning you have ALREADY DECIDED to go with Samsung...