Samsung NC10 UK revision, Updates / Installation / Modding etc, stuff will be here Options

[adamcarter]

Hi,

anybody yet achieved to send the nc10 to deep sleep? I know that normal sleep at the moment only works on battery. Therefore deep sleep would be cool to have.

I habe searched via google and in this thread but so far I got no answer to my question. Someone asked it before but I havent seen anyone to answer it.

Thanks guys

Deep sleep... yeah sure..
I know my NC10 gets 8 hours of sleep every night at least. And it starts on REM sleep, then progresses to NREM 1-NREM 4, followed by REM again. Doing multiple cycles. Until I awaken it. My NC10 Doesn't like sleeping with the battery. Claiming the battery is a bed hog, always asking for a cuddle after the intimate encounter. He's just not that type of computer to get all emotional after the act. She finds sex so draining so afterward she wants him to just hold her, and he just wants her to get the freak out. I mean can you blame him.

[ Mysticus C*]

Deep sleep... yeah sure..
I know my NC10 gets 8 hours of sleep every night at least. And it starts on REM sleep, then progresses to NREM 1-NREM 4, followed by REM again. Doing multiple cycles. Until I awaken it. My NC10 Doesn't like sleeping with the battery. Claiming the battery is a bed hog, always asking for a cuddle after the intimate encounter. He's just not that type of computer to get all emotional after the act. She finds sex so draining so afterward she wants him to just hold her, and he just wants her to get the freak out. I mean can you blame him.

well you should not blame him for this kind of reason she is the naughty one

[srcshelton]

anybody yet achieved to send the nc10 to deep sleep? I know that normal sleep at the moment only works on battery. Therefore deep sleep would be cool to have.

Deep Sleep/Safe Sleep/Hibernate under OS X is actually bootloader-dependant...

I'm not sure this is because the feature requires hacking in order to get it to work on non-Apple hardware or, more likely, the restoration function is actually performed by Apple's bootloader or even (and this'd be my guess) an EFI callback.

In any case, the next release of Chameleon is imminent and will support Deep Sleep and and much more.

(If you look around, there is already a bootloader released which supports Deep Sleep - but it's still experimental and may lack other bootloader features which you rely on)

[srcshelton]

I've been looking further into the NC10's ACPI implementation, and of the three defined SSDTs, two fail to compile.

Looking at them, either the SSDT itself is junk or Intel's ACPI decompiler is broken: whilst they mostly make sense, there are several cases of unmatched nested brackets and custom functions being defined and then called with the wrong number of parameters.

For example, there's a function 'PRIT' which takes a single mandatory argument. 'pio0' is a defined variable. Yet the SSDT contains:

CODE

Store (GETP, PRIT)
pio0

... which should clearly be:

CODE

Store (GETP, PRIT (pio0))

It does look more like sloppy coding to be honest. This is a trivial example, but the code (which is almost identical between the two broken SSDTs) has some hideously complex contructs whose nesting has at some point got completely lost, and it's really not obvious to me yet if it's possible to fix without knowledge of what the function is trying to achieve.

On a positive note, it looks as if both of these broken tables affect the SATA controller and so are likely unnecessary fixes which won't directly affect anything.

Which leads me back to the reason that I originally started looking: It's been suggested that DSDT changes might be able to fix the problems with the NC10 not sleeping when on mains power.

Does anyone have any information on this?

Personally, I'm not entirely convinced that we understand the problem yet... As far as I know, German owners who do not have the Bluetooth hardware installed also find that their machine doesn't sleep on mains. Perhaps the errors on the Bluetooth adapter are a red herring? Being a standard USB device on a USB bus, I'm sceptical that this would affect system sleep on mains but not on battery... I don't see that there's a mechanism where a USB device would be able to act in this way. Having said that I am, as always, more than happy to be corrected - and if it leads to a patch for the NC10 which allows it to sleep at any time, then even better!

Cheers,

stuart

[ghostface_ch]

I've a few questions...
First of all: thank you Mysticus C* for your great work (disto, tutorial, drivers etc.)!!
I just bought a Samsung NC10 anyNet N270WBT (German Edition) and the installation worked very fine...
one of my problems is, that I want a connection in the internet...
I read in previous posts, that dell Wi-Fi adapters are recommended.
I looked up for them and found these Adapters (available in Swizerland):

Dell Wi-Fi Adapters

Which one would you recommend at the moment? Or are there cheaper possibilities?
What are the standings in the development of the full audio solution?
Will the internal LAN never work or are drivers in development?

[adamcarter]

I've a few questions...
First of all: thank you Mysticus C* for your great work (disto, tutorial, drivers etc.)!!
I just bought a Samsung NC10 anyNet N270WBT (German Edition) and the installation worked very fine...
one of my problems is, that I want a connection in the internet...
I read in previous posts, that dell Wi-Fi adapters are recommended.
I looked up for them and found these Adapters (available in Swizerland):

Dell Wi-Fi Adapters

Which one would you recommend at the moment? Or are there cheaper possibilities?
What are the standings in the development of the full audio solution?
Will the internal LAN never work or are drivers in development?

Bonjour Mon Ami.
I have z'great news for you. If you just read from the beginning of this thread you will have found your answer. You read 1 page and made a comment, n'est-ce pas? A bientot mon ami


See, the sad thing about a guy like you is in 50 years you're gonna staht doin some thinkin on your own and you're gonna come up with the fact that there are two certaintees in life. One, don't do that. And Two, you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a freakin education you coulda got for a dollah fifty in late chahges at the public library.

[G4-Flo]

Hey Guys,

sorry, didn't write any post for a long time now...
So, I found out something about brightness adjustment after playing a bit in bios.

If you set in bios the brightness control to "manual" and adjust the brightness on booting up for eg on the bootloader prompt, osx boots up with exactly this brightness adjusted and keeps it also after waking from sleep.

Almost the same happens if you set in bios to automatic mode - so osx boots with brightness adjusted on bootloader's prompt but after waking from sleep it back to the low level as known.

Maybe this fact helps or gives any ideas for adjusting brightness in future without using scripts and additional software.


One other question:
I'd like to kill all partitions except windows recovery and osx. Is there any chance to do this without reinstalling osx? I'd like to have one big osx partition and I don't need windows xp anymore (didn't use it the last 2 months and it's only wasting space).

[toc70]

Hey Guys,

sorry, didn't write any post for a long time now...
So, I found out something about brightness adjustment after playing a bit in bios.

If you set in bios the brightness control to "manual" and adjust the brightness on booting up for eg on the bootloader prompt, osx boots up with exactly this brightness adjusted and keeps it also after waking from sleep.

Almost the same happens if you set in bios to automatic mode - so osx boots with brightness adjusted on bootloader's prompt but after waking from sleep it back to the low level as known.

Maybe this fact helps or gives any ideas for adjusting brightness in future without using scripts and additional software.

Another solution, using Sleep Watcher, is at post #1126 of this thread (page 57).
It works perfectly for me, I don't use anymore QuickSilver, as I rarely need to adjust screen brightness.
Bye!

[goodhope]

hi all,

i downloaded the bike town iso and used the pdf to install it. my installation differs in some points from the manual, so i'm not sure if i did something wrong.

i would be glad if someone could take me by the hand and helps me to fix or to install it new, through msn would be the best.

when i start the nc10 i have 5 seconds to press a key where i can choose between the partitions. if i just wait 5 seconds osx is loading. i see the white screen with the apple logo and the cycling thing at the bottom. this screen stays forever, nothing happens.

can anyone help please?

[ghostface1]

Bonjour Mon Ami.
I have z'great news for you. If you just read from the beginning of this thread you will have found your answer. You read 1 page and made a comment, n'est-ce pas? A bientot mon ami


See, the sad thing about a guy like you is in 50 years you're gonna staht doin some thinkin on your own and you're gonna come up with the fact that there are two certaintees in life. One, don't do that. And Two, you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a freakin education you coulda got for a dollah fifty in late chahges at the public library.

tahnk you for your "help" wise french guy..
you would better spend some time to help people instead of talking rusbish..
has anyone else an idea (Post #1626)?

[bleu34]

tahnk you for your "help" wise french guy..
you would better spend some time to help people instead of talking rusbish..
has anyone else an idea (Post #1626)?

Yes read the first post of this topic. Mysticus is taking care of updating it regularly so you will find the list of compatible Dell cards.

This is the only answer you can have, and it's the one adamcarter gave to you.

[Antipas]

Deep Sleep/Safe Sleep/Hibernate under OS X is actually bootloader-dependant...

I'm not sure this is because the feature requires hacking in order to get it to work on non-Apple hardware or, more likely, the restoration function is actually performed by Apple's bootloader or even (and this'd be my guess) an EFI callback.

In any case, the next release of Chameleon is imminent and will support Deep Sleep and and much more.

(If you look around, there is already a bootloader released which supports Deep Sleep - but it's still experimental and may lack other bootloader features which you rely on)

Yeah .. netkas most recent pcefiv9 is known to support deep sleep and since its based on one of the most recent chameleon versions it shouldn't lack features.
I wasn't able to send my nc10 to deep sleep, though. It just goes to normal sleep. I just wondered if anybody else had successfull tried it. On unsupported hardware a fixed dsdt.aml might help but as I said I had no luck so far.

[mauritsz]

hi all,

i downloaded the bike town iso and used the pdf to install it. my installation differs in some points from the manual, so i'm not sure if i did something wrong.

i would be glad if someone could take me by the hand and helps me to fix or to install it new, through msn would be the best.

when i start the nc10 i have 5 seconds to press a key where i can choose between the partitions. if i just wait 5 seconds osx is loading. i see the white screen with the apple logo and the cycling thing at the bottom. this screen stays forever, nothing happens.

can anyone help please?

In the customize window is a checkbox with a -- sign in it. This means it's not signed, You must manually put a V into this checkbox for loading the specific NC10 drivers.

It's all in de pdf file, see pag 71

I make it more easy, see picture 4 and 5 here: http://home.deds.nl/~corvus/

[goodhope]

hi mauritzs,

thanks a lot for your help. but what customize window with checkbox do your mean :-)?

[ Mysticus C*]

minor news: i ve been working on the hda project sometime, trying to help someone with wind, but their hda 888 doesnt work no matter what, on the other hand, current driver i included in the 10.5.6 dvd works for internal speaker and external mic! yes mic working with external mic... however driver in that is older hda driver...

i ve been trying to patch and load latest hda, and now i managed to get it loaded however, only external mic in is working and nothing else... yet... and console spitting out lots of errors regarding the hda driver... feeling frustrated... bcoz voodoohda is now 3 months with no words on ETA of any testing alpha beta gama driver... but hang in there... bye the way hp/int speaker works with sensing... meaning when you plug hp jack, audio switches automatically but no sound in either one yet...

just some headsup...

[Bedok]

Yeah .. netkas most recent pcefiv9 is known to support deep sleep and since its based on one of the most recent chameleon versions it shouldn't lack features.
I wasn't able to send my nc10 to deep sleep, though. It just goes to normal sleep. I just wondered if anybody else had successfull tried it. On unsupported hardware a fixed dsdt.aml might help but as I said I had no luck so far.

+1 that it works with pc_efiv9 but with this u lose the ability to boot from efi partition so no more vanilla install. But if you are already installing NC10 dvd there shouldnt be any issue with it. The weird thing is deep sleep works better on my NC10 than "normal" sleep .

edit: Now when I put it to sleep, all I get is black screen (my bad, I didnt use Mysticus hacked IntegratedFramebuffer kext) so I had to power it off by holding the power button. When I boot it back up, the bootloader thinks I am booting up from hibernation.

edit2: I just tried deep sleep with mains on (using widget Deep Sleep Widget) and it works

[Antipas]

+1 that it works with pc_efiv9 but with this u lose the ability to boot from efi partition so no more vanilla install. But if you are already installing NC10 dvd there shouldnt be any issue with it. The weird thing is deep sleep works better on my NC10 than "normal" sleep .

edit: Now when I put it to sleep, all I get is black screen (my bad, I didnt use Mysticus hacked IntegratedFramebuffer kext) so I had to power it off by holding the power button. When I boot it back up, the bootloader thinks I am booting up from hibernation.

edit2: I just tried deep sleep with mains on (using widget Deep Sleep Widget) and it works

Could you tell me something about your configuration and install. I can't get deep sleep to work on mine. I installed the retail dvd, patched it with pcefiv9 and the kext installation package from mysticus. I also added the DSDT.aml to the root directory. But it just goes to normal sleep .. even with the widget.

[Bedok]

What happen was I installed vanilla Leopard from DL install disc and then use chameleon bootloader with efi partition to ensure that System/Library/Extension is intact. I managed to get most of Mysticus hacked kext to work apart from the video so I use fixedAppleIntelGMA950.kext and fixedAppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext floating around the site ( I forgot where I got them but I have a copy). It was working beautifully apart from the fact that brightness control hack doesnt work and sleep works intermittently (not working most of the time).

I then wanted to put Windows 7 on which is fine apart from the fact that chameleon cant see the damn partition and I am useless with vista bootloader business. So i make Vista partition active and installed easybcd 2.0 beta from Insanelymac and managed to boot into Leopard. This will install pc_efiv9 and in turn broke efi partition (actually Windows 7 broke it first but I cant fix the damn thing). I then copied my efi partition to S/L/E and eventhough sleep doesnt work, deep sleep does.

P/s - I am now using Vista Bootloader with Windows 7 and Leopard on right now. If you want to know more specifics, by all mean post back.

[Antipas]

What happen was I installed vanilla Leopard from DL install disc and then use chameleon bootloader with efi partition to ensure that System/Library/Extension is intact. I managed to get most of Mysticus hacked kext to work apart from the video so I use fixedAppleIntelGMA950.kext and fixedAppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext floating around the site ( I forgot where I got them but I have a copy). It was working beautifully apart from the fact that brightness control hack doesnt work and sleep works intermittently (not working most of the time).

I then wanted to put Windows 7 on which is fine apart from the fact that chameleon cant see the damn partition and I am useless with vista bootloader business. So i make Vista partition active and installed easybcd 2.0 beta from Insanelymac and managed to boot into Leopard. This will install pc_efiv9 and in turn broke efi partition (actually Windows 7 broke it first but I cant fix the damn thing). I then copied my efi partition to S/L/E and eventhough sleep doesnt work, deep sleep does.

P/s - I am now using Vista Bootloader with Windows 7 and Leopard on right now. If you want to know more specifics, by all mean post back.

Do you use mbr or guid partition table? Im still using mbr so maybe that might be a problem. I might recheck if my pcefi is installed correctly. Ill just do that.
I suppose deep sleep is working fine with power cord attached or does it still restart immediately?

[Bedok]

Hey again.

I think most of the problems with deep sleep arise from the fact that the sleepimage is deleted. This is what people always do as the image size (afaik) is the same size as your ram. What I think is the logic behind this is the RAM is written onto this sleepimage so it will correspond to your RAM size.

You can check it by opening Finder>Go>"Go to Folder" and write /private/var/vm and see if there is a sleepimage file and make sure its the same size as your ram.

Next you will need to check if hibernate is actually enable as I think a lot of distro (I assume JaS is) disable it to prevent sleepimage (2gig of useless space) to be formed.

With my laptop:
On Mains:
- Close lid/sleep will black out the screen and I had to hold the power button down to power it off. When I restart it acts like the laptop goes into deepsleep at the time I put it to sleep. This I think what makes NC10s cant sleep on mains, it thinks its going into hibernate and write the ram onto the sleepimage (S2/S3-which I dont know anything about ) making it impossible to wake back up, but the kernel still thinks its going to sleep so it didnt power down at all.
- Deep Sleep widget will make the screen go white for a sec and after 5 second or so all the power is gone. I boot back up and on the screen instead of apple boot logo (pc_efiv9 still have this instead of chameleon v6 which killed it) it said start hibernation, rotating ascii wheel and then Wake Kernel and it acts like ity just woke up from normal sleep, ie same state when I click on Deep Sleep widget (this I assume what hibernation does on a mac)

On battery:
- Close lid/sleep will make it go to normal sleep and pushing the power button will wake it back up.
- Deep sleep widget acts exactly like mains.

edit: to check the hibernatemode all you do is (in terminal) type "pmset -g" and paste it here, do it once when u plugged in and another one on battery.

edit2: now I made some change to my hibernatemode so if it goes to sleep on battery, it will go to normal sleep and on mains it will go straight to deep sleep as normal sleep on mains is broken anyway.

just for fun, my pmset -g
on mains:

CODE

Active Profiles:
Battery Power        -1
AC Power        -1*
Currently in use:
  sleep        0
  displaysleep    5
  autorestart    0
  hibernatefile    /var/vm/sleepimage
  hibernatemode    1
  halfdim    1
  disksleep    10
  ttyskeepawake    1

on battery

CODE

Active Profiles:
Battery Power        -1*
AC Power        -1
Currently in use:
  sleep        10
  displaysleep    2
  hibernatefile    /var/vm/sleepimage
  hibernatemode    0
  halfdim    1
  disksleep    180
  ttyskeepawake    1