Samsung NC10 UK revision, Updates / Installation / Modding etc, stuff will be here Options

[mudzilla]

why people are obsessed with an info they dont even see when using the card... it is called third party bcoz it is not original airport card...

I tried it because I've not had the Dell card work correctly with Kismac and the Airport Extreme driver option. I thought that if the system reported it as a proper Airport card, Kismac's drivers might work correctly.


Just because you can't see the reason, doesn't mean there isn't one.

Thanks again!

[ Mysticus C*]

I tried it because I've not had the Dell card work correctly with Kismac and the Airport Extreme driver option. I thought that if the system reported it as a proper Airport card, Kismac's drivers might work correctly.
Just because you can't see the reason, doesn't mean there isn't one.

Thanks again!

1st why are you trying with kismac, while built in drivers support bcm 43xx drivers! (unless if your dell wifi is not 43xx?)

2nd airport fix is not fixing card's provider, rather device id fix to identify more bcm43xx chips. As mentioned some scripts to fix the airport card show up as bluetooth! What the script does is to add the ids into the info.plist, not change the manufacturer of the card...

3rd what do you think airport is? supersonic apple device? it is just a name for the wireless interface. By naming it "Third party card" or "Apple" named card, you dont change the fact that it is still built-in wireless network interface card! Why people are so obsessed with things they dont even understand what it is... It still shows up as airport card just the manufacturer is third party rather than apple branded.

4th are you telling me off that i dont understand the crap you are talking about?

"Just because you can't see the reason, doesn't mean there isn't one"
this is because you dont understand what you are doing, and you dont know how to report problem properly!

people mess up their system all the time knowingly or not knowingly and complain that things doesnt work.
when they dont even know what they are talking about or what they have done, it makes it even worse because you dont even know what to report or how to report!

If you got a correct dell card, it should have worked, however, you dont even explain what card you have, what model, what device id etc... Plust you even went for kismac which most likely created even more mess in your system by now... do you know why people were trying to use kismac for? more importantly do you know what model/chip dell card do you have?

if so, you can start giving information, rather than spitting out some crap as if you know what you are doing...

[mudzilla]

Hey man, I never said I knew what I was doing, I told you *why* I was trying it.

Look at every post I've made, always a thank you, always gracious and tried to help others if I could, you've done a genius job and we all know it, *removed a bit, as I really don't want to start an argument*

Again, thanks for all your time and effort, you've made this Samsung one of the best laptops I've owned, but you've really got to chill out a little.

--just adding a little info, which I admit I should have elaborated on first post--
I'm using the Mysticus C* OSX 10.5.6 install from Demonoid. I have a Dell 1390 wifi card, which has worked beautifully with the OS from first install.

I know exactly what Kismac is, having used it for about 4 years now. I use it for network intrusion/penetration testing and collecting/mapping SSIDs and APs in conjunction with a USB GPS device. I upload these to wigle.net, and am currently sitting around 134th place, worldwide.

So yes, I know what Kismac is. I know it also won't mess up a system even more by just running it, as all it will do is create a prefs file.

Kismac does not load the Apple Airport Extreme driver correctly. Kismac's driver is not labelled as a BCMXX card, just plain old Apple Extreme Card, hence thinking that it's relying on a system string to identify the cards. I'm fairly sure when I had OS X installed on my Asus 701 EEE that Kismac worked fine with the same Dell 1390 card, because it was recognised as an original Apple Extreme Card.

Maybe with this bit of information it is important that the card string is identified correctly for Kismac, and if so, it's worth getting the .pkg to work properly. Can anyone who has a Dell card showing up as an Apple Airport Extreme card verify that Kismac works ok?

And no, I don't think the Apple Extreme card is some kind of super sonic device. That was quite funny

I don't want to fall out with you Mysticus, or anyone on the forum, so hopefully this bit of info will go some way to explaining why I tried the airport .pkg,

cheers
mud

[ Mysticus C*]

Hey man, I never said I knew what I was doing, I told you *why* I was trying it.

Look at every post I've made, always a thank you, always gracious and tried to help others if I could, you've done a genius job and we all know it, *removed a bit, as I really don't want to start an argument*

Again, thanks for all your time and effort, you've made this Samsung one of the best laptops I've owned, but you've really got to chill out a little.

well i m still fine, just annoyed being told off for something you dont even understand.

simple is that you didnt report problem rather mentioned it shows up as third party, which is not a problem since most people's card showing up as third party but still airport and working just fine, many people mentioned from the beginning of this topic about 1490 or 1500 series cards, and people are still buying older chips... also, when people say things doesnt work, doesnt help with solving problems! it just drives people crazy...

"i tried the solution, it doesnt work" what doesnt work? what chip does your card have (simple windows boot, checking device manager, to see wireless cards details would be more helpful) but no, reporting something that is not even a problem, just pisses me (i dont know others) off usually...

as far as i m concerned with the usage and current state of the nc10, there is no major problem from doing most of the things at the moment. People are only stuck with the more smaller details that are not even problems at all (better to say natural as we are not using a real mac!)

[mudzilla]

as far as i m concerned with the usage and current state of the nc10, there is no major problem from doing most of the things at the moment. People are only stuck with the more smaller details that are not even problems at all (better to say natural as we are not using a real mac!)

Agree 100%

[SiM SaM SunG]

Hi Guys,

just for the record I'd like to state that Camdenblokehere is an absolute gentleman and a scholar and a fine judge of women and wine.

[tutti]

i added latest bluetooth fix with both ids fixed... now it should work for everyone...

Hi Mysticus C*,
unfortunately, the two fixes dont seem to work on my machine. anyway, thanks for your efforts. it's really no big deal if i cant turn off bluetooth.. the machine is working beautifully.

[tiomo1981]

Microsoft's Silverlight also refuses to install, thinking that the machine is PowerPC. This can be fixed by manually extracting the Archive.pax.gz from the installer and then copying the resulting bundle into Library/Internet Plug-Ins. Would a similar approach work with Parallels?

I'm not sure if it would work. I looked around in the directory of the Parallels installer and I found a small program called "cpu_check". Upon execution it gives out information about your CPU and if it is suitable for virtualisation. It recognises the Intel CPU but since it does not have HW virtualisation it states that the CPU is not able to run Parallels. It seems like Parallels was built without support for SW virtualisation... Again, I've not tried yet to install Parallels so it may run despite the disccouraging output from that tool.

I installed virtualbox (http://www.virtualbox.org) which installed fine and I was able to successfully install Windows XP in a virtual machine. Windows did also boot up but keeps freezing (completely) randomly when surfing the web via IE or trying to run Google Chrome. So that's not a viable solution unfortunatley :-/

I wouldn't use Windows very often - but since converting my NC10 to OS X has rid me of any Windows installation in the household (media server is runnning Linux) I have to to things like update my phone firmware in the office...

[camdenbloke]

Hi Guys,

just for the record I'd like to state that Camdenblokehere is an absolute gentleman and a scholar and a fine judge of women and wine.

Cheers, much appreciated. Thank you for your praise. Hope you received the PM I sent... there's been a slight problem...


Andy.

[dachegga]

i have been reading along this thread quite a time.

thx for the great work mysticus!

@tiomo1981:
found this:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=95210
maybe it helps you. haven't tested it yet.

[ Mysticus C*]

tutti: can you try -v -f boot at start?

i may be wrong, and may need to change the installer for once more, because of the funny behaviour of the kextcache watching mechanism in leo. I didnt make the caches to be deleted, therefore it may be not be getting effective after restart because leo first uses kextcaches for quick boot, and if it is not updated, it will not load new changes sometimes i overlook at problems maybe it complicates simple tasks... it should have updated the caches since we are editing the driver, anyways, i will add the kextcache removal to the current fixes and therefore it should work for all... hopefully, in the meantime, people who have applied fixes, please boot using -v -f (this will ensure reloading all the drivers!)

how?

at boot screen counter when you choose your os x partition, press f8, and it brings selection window, and over there using arrow keys, bring the selection to your current osx partition, and type
-v -f
and than press enter you will see bunch of text flying, and hopefully this should solve the problems!


NOTE: I have now added the fixed bluetooth and airport fixes with cache removal and therefore it will ensure to reload new edited drivers upon restart!

[tiomo1981]

i have been reading along this thread quite a time.

thx for the great work mysticus!

@tiomo1981:
found this:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=95210
maybe it helps you. haven't tested it yet.

Thanks for the link. Looks like that won't work for version 4. I might try it anyway if VMware fusion doesn't work. That's my next step, try to make Windows XP run under VMware fusion.

BTW, while Windows was running under virtualbox I found the speed to be acceptable. Quite remarkable for such a low-powered system like the NC10.

[atmasphere]

Not a fix as such, but I use 'Butler' instead of quicksilver. works just as well and i prefer it.

I installed Shades which lets me control brightness - http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23370

The trick is that I can't reach the level of brightness possible on power when running on battery. Anyone else seeing that? I usually run a less bright screen on battery but it's nice to have the option to go higher. In windows I usually have it set to around 3 bars and I can't get past what looks like 2 in os x mode.

[G4-Flo]

I installed Shades which lets me control brightness - http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23370

The trick is that I can't reach the level of brightness possible on power when running on battery. Anyone else seeing that? I usually run a less bright screen on battery but it's nice to have the option to go higher. In windows I usually have it set to around 3 bars and I can't get past what looks like 2 in os x mode.

Shades doesn't change your brightness, although it looks like that. It's only changing the brightness/contrast of the colors. So it looks like the brightness of the backlit is changing but for real only the colors are getting darker at the same backlit-level. That's why you won't reach full brightness on battery as there's not more backlit available.

[atmasphere]

Shades doesn't change your brightness, although it looks like that. It's only changing the brightness/contrast of the colors. So it looks like the brightness of the backlit is changing but for real only the colors are getting darker at the same backlit-level. That's why you won't reach full brightness on battery as there's not more backlit available.

alright so what's the trick here? When I run the scripts for brightness it basically freezes either Quicksilver or the Script Editor. I can't get this working ... ;(

[G4-Flo]

alright so what's the trick here? When I run the scripts for brightness it basically freezes either Quicksilver or the Script Editor. I can't get this working ... ;(

This has really nothing to do with shades. Shades isn't able to change the backlight level, neither on a mac or a hackintosh. It just reduces the color gammut an makes white to gray and gray to black and so on.

Sorry, but you will have to explain a bit more about your issue to get some help.

[atmasphere]

This has really nothing to do with shades. Shades isn't able to change the backlight level, neither on a mac or a hackintosh. It just reduces the color gammut an makes white to gray and gray to black and so on.

Sorry, but you will have to explain a bit more about your issue to get some help.

I want to change the brightness of my display. If I boot unpluggd, the battery mode seems to limit the level it can achieve. When plugged in, the boot up brightness is considerably higher. I've got no way to make any adjustments. As noted earlier, when I run the quicksilver trigger or even just use the script editor try and make adjustments it locks up the application and there's no change.

[G4-Flo]

I want to change the brightness of my display. If I boot unpluggd, the battery mode seems to limit the level it can achieve. When plugged in, the boot up brightness is considerably higher. I've got no way to make any adjustments. As noted earlier, when I run the quicksilver trigger or even just use the script editor try and make adjustments it locks up the application and there's no change.

OK, you didn't tell me anything new. Please tell what you've already tried. Go to BikeTown and download the installation guide from mysticus, everything is explained HOW TO GET BRIGHTNESS ADJUSTMENT WORK.

There are some points you have to look at, like the correct pci id, chud and so on. How should anybody help you if you explain nothing about your current config? Please also read the last 10 pages of this thread, there are many hints to get brightness work.

[atmasphere]

OK, you didn't tell me anything new. Please tell what you've already tried. Go to BikeTown and download the installation guide from mysticus, everything is explained HOW TO GET BRIGHTNESS ADJUSTMENT WORK.

There are some points you have to look at, like the correct pci id, chud and so on. How should anybody help you if you explain nothing about your current config? Please also read the last 10 pages of this thread, there are many hints to get brightness work.

I've read and followed the installation guide. I was unsuccessful a few times getting a keychain request to initiate but it eventually did and I added my creds. Now though when I use my key to adjust brightness I see the icon pop up and then there's a very long delay (over a minute) until the beachball stops spinning and then nothing ...

[ Mysticus C*]

I've read and followed the installation guide. I was unsuccessful a few times getting a keychain request to initiate but it eventually did and I added my creds. Now though when I use my key to adjust brightness I see the icon pop up and then there's a very long delay (over a minute) until the beachball stops spinning and then nothing ...

install
chud package from nc10 files section first
and
brightness icon update

after that follow the guide to make scripts work...

if you dont install chud, scripts wont work!