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Samsung NC10 UK revision, Updates / Installation / Modding etc, stuff will be here
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Hi,

Firstly I would like to thank Mysticus C for the great work he has done getting a really nice install of MacOSx on the NC10!

I've been reading though these forums over the past few days and putting together ideas on ways we can improve things. This thread caught my interest with regard to the future of installing MacOSx on non apple machines. Basically it allows you to use the hidden EFI partition on a GPT formatted disk to boot a retail copy of Leopard with no changes to the actual install, its a completely retail installation! The magic is that any modified KEXTs are stored in the EFI partition and you don't have to touch the retail unmodified extentions (for the most part) in /System/Library/Extensions...

So last night I used an external USB drive with an EFI partition and used my MacBook Pro to do a totally clean Leopard install (10.5.6). I followed the steps in the thread i mentioned earlier to setup the EFI partition and copied the NC10 modifed KEXTS from the Mysticus NC10 install disk into the EFI partition.

I plugged the external drive into my NC10 and managed to boot into a totally clean and unmodified OSX install! So now I'm going to work on trying to get the proper video, sound, and bluetooth working (I replaced my Wifi with a Dell one BTW) as the KEXTS I put into the EFI partiton so far only cover the basics (Keyboard, trackpad, essentials etc).

If I can get the EFI partition into a good enough state that it allows most of the funcionallity I will take an image of it and post it so that any NC10 user just needs to restore this image to their own EFI partition so they can perform retail installs, this should mean that overall we can peform system updates (to 10.5.7 for example when it comes out) and not have to worry about overwritting out tweaked kernals or extensions).

The reason why I'm posting is that i need some help with some stuff....

1) I'm trying to figure out which bootloader to use, three are various ones flying around which allow you to use a custom DSDT file, set the EFI strings in the Boot.plist, and one that lets you specify the SMBIOS properties. So can anyone give advice on which one to use that will provide the most features while still being compatable with EFI boot method?

2) Which SMBIOS type KEXT works best on the NC10? I would like my NC10 to be indentified as a MacBook Air (it just looks nicer), at the moment I have my SMBIOS strings set in the Boot.plist so that my NC10 is identified as an MacBook Pro, I think its a specific version of Chameleon bootloader which has this functionality. I think a better method would be to place some sort of SMBIOS resolver KEXT in the EFI partition, so can anyone point me to the KEXT which works best.

3) Regarding EFI strings, does anyone have an example Boot.plist for the NC10 which includes the EFI string that lets Video / Audio work without modifiing the KEXTs (I know with the audio its probably not possible) as I think this should be possible for at least the video!

4) The DSDT.aml file. Does anyone know of any existing tweaks for the 04AC bios version (latest) that fix any problems or improve anything? This DSDT.aml can also be put in the root of the EFI partition.

I think Mysticus C has done some great work, and there are only a few little things that we need to do make the install on the NC10 almost perfect, in my opinion they are 1) Getting the sound working fully 2) Getting sleep on AC to work 3) Getting sleep / wake on lid open / close to work fully. 4) Getting Speedstep to work (I've tried the VoodooPower but it causes problems when on battery).

Thanks for reading! Lets try getting our heads together some more wink.gif

Paul
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QUOTE (psneddon @ Jan 13 2009, 06:01 PM) *
Hi,

If I remember correctly this looks like the instructions I used to enable the bluetooth on/off functionality, I found it on another forum somewhere...

The file you need to edit is /System/Library/Extensions/IOBluetoothFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController.kext/Contents/Info.plist

e.g. #sudo vi /System/Library/Extensions/IOBluetoothFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController.kext/Contents/Info.plist

In this file you should find the following...

<key>idProduct</key>
<integer>8448</integer>
<key>idVendor</key>
<integer>2652</integer>


Change the 8448 to 8449

Save the file then remove /System/Library/Extensions.mkext , then reboot.

e.g. #sudo rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext
#sudo reboot -n

Paul


Thank you so much! It worked perfectly! biggrin.gif
Finaly I'm able to turn the BT on and off whitout any hassle.
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ok guys, i will make some reading, and try to put an installer for all the work arounds been found... esp bluetooth issue... i personally didnt look at the bluetooth problem before, but looks like it is just an id fix... i hope everyone's ids are the same...

psneddon: i already have aml fix but didnt finish it up yet to test as i went on a trip... i will check it up and test... smbios part is a bit confusing, if i try to go through details everyone has different expectations... so i will keep it vanilla so it stays as it is... but i know some of you want different things for functional or cosmetic reasons... once i m don with aml power/sleep problems would be solved (would be becuase i dont know the outcome yet), sound will be ready soon, so dont worry about it too much. Speedstep is not in my lists to do at the moment, but from the look of it, it also has to do with power state functions missing in the bios, which may/maynot be fixed in aml... we ll see...

milton: i may include previous fb driver to see if it will help with your situation, but with the latest drivers, it only works with desktop extention, and not with cloning... for some reason... bluetooth fix will be out in the wild shortly... smile.gif

gaz: scroll function works with the beta drivers as far as i remember, and i didnt wanna involve with the details of it, if you wanna do it, there have been some post regarding that sometime back...

djkwai: ok no problem...

for the update issues: efi partition/folder is a good way thinking forward, and the only thing that was putting me off of it is the amount of inexperienced users' ability to mess up things and create chaos smile.gif after couple of kinks worked out, we can move to full efi folder use and go on with the updates... hopefully dense's solution for gma along with voodoo hda comes soon, and we can wrap things up a bit...
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thank you guys, changed the id of bluetooth fixed the switch on/off problem!!!
Now I am able to use the shared bluetooth pan connection of my iMac, but it's really really slow...
I got very high high ping to reach my iMac that acts as router....like 15000 ms!!!
taking a look the Console Messages I see a lot of those errors:

_CFGetHostUUIDString: unable to determine UUID for host. Error: 35

It maybe related ? Are there any fix to this?

So cloning doesn't work. Was it working in 10.5.5 ???

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I've always found PAN in MacOS to be really slow, even on my real MacBook Pro, keeps dropping the connection etc. With regard to the UUID issue, that is something that is usually stored in the NVRAM/SMBIOS etc on a real mac, so as far as I know (and I don't actually know that much) you need to use one of the modified SMBIOS KEXTS to inject the UUID string for the host. Most of the SMBIOS stuff is purely cosmetic, but I'm notsure if that one is?

Paul

QUOTE (milton02 @ Jan 14 2009, 01:49 PM) *
thank you guys, changed the id of bluetooth fixed the switch on/off problem!!!
Now I am able to use the shared bluetooth pan connection of my iMac, but it's really really slow...
I got very high high ping to reach my iMac that acts as router....like 15000 ms!!!
taking a look the Console Messages I see a lot of those errors:

_CFGetHostUUIDString: unable to determine UUID for host. Error: 35

It maybe related ? Are there any fix to this?

So cloning doesn't work. Was it working in 10.5.5 ???

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ok guys bluetooth on/off fix installer for those of you less able, is in the nc10 related files section of bike town smile.gif for those of you who doesnt read a lot Bike Town's appropriate section is here go to Samsung NC10 related files sections
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QUOTE (palomu @ Jan 14 2009, 12:02 PM) *
sorry i don't understand what i had to write instead of sixteen.....do you mean the graphic card's id?

Yes, you can find it out by using the following command in Terminal:
sudo reggie_se -D PentiumM -x
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airport adapter fix with complete ids is on the works and will be ready in nc10 files section shortly (as it turns out not all same model cards using same chipsets... like 1490's some 4311, some 4312 etc.. vice versa...)

although it does not bother me at all seeing third party airport card tag, and some other minor issues, i will put it for others who would like to keep their stuffs named "AS ORIGINAL" smile.gif to satisfy his/her ego
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[Mysticus,

you may remove the broken link to the Iso torrent, as unfortunately it has been taken off the interwebs. The only way to get your image is via commercial download sites. The Jas image is available, but then the PPF is on a paysite again.

Could one kind soul (out of the 100s who downloaded it) be nice enough to republish the torrent? I promise to seed it for 6 Months.
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airport fix is in nc10 files section, for those of you who have airport showing as bluetooth... viceversa... smile.gif

list of TO-DOs
* scroll function for touchpad (for those of u crying out loud)
* fake screen resolution for those of u needed additional space to see bottom part of some windows... (warning: this method comes with some troubles, with menu/font/etc items to be displayed irregularyly changing from one program to another...
* adding previous fb driver for those who desperately need the clone function and desktop extension is not enough...
* bios override for sleep/wake in power fix (aml fix) pretty much i got all the info but didnt apply it yet...
* some other minor issues
* another PPF (should not be more than couple of MBs) to incorporate all the recent changes into to latest 10.5.6 iso (no more installer as most of you dont understand this, and keep changing original file names, and/or dont know how to place files in correct places... tons of headache for me to answer)

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[Mysticus,

you may remove the broken link to the Iso torrent, as unfortunately it has been taken off the interwebs. The only way to get your image is via commercial download sites. The Jas image is available, but then the PPF is on a paysite again.

Could one kind soul (out of the 100s who downloaded it) be nice enough to republish the torrent? I promise to seed it for 6 Months.


i will fix the torrent link (remove it) but unfortunately there is no easy way to get 4.3 gb of data to a freebie places w/o hassle...
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can you help me me realrooster? i tried but didn't work i've posted a screenshot what number i had to write instead of 16?
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QUOTE (palomu @ Jan 14 2009, 11:58 AM) *
can you help me me realrooster? i tried but didn't work i've posted a screenshot what number i had to write instead of 16?


What Dock modifier are you using there? Pretty cool...
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Hi Mysticus C,

I really can't stand the bad behaviour of the vga out mode: today I clicked on mirrors display by accident and I messed up everything. I had to reinstall. I found out anyone that I could delete the /Library/Prefereces/com.apple.windowserver.plist to fix thing, anyway.

I have some experience about replacing kext. While I am waiting you prepare the proper package with all the new fix, can you just point me out the file name of the fb files I need to replace (fb stands for framebuffer, isn't it) and then I guess I need to delete the Extentions.mkext to delete the extensions cache and reboot. correct?
thank you in advance
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QUOTE (milton02 @ Jan 14 2009, 06:13 PM) *
Hi Mysticus C,

I really can't stand the bad behaviour of the vga out mode: today I clicked on mirrors display by accident and I messed up everything. I had to reinstall. I found out anyone that I could delete the /Library/Prefereces/com.apple.windowserver.plist to fix thing, anyway.

I have some experience about replacing kext. While I am waiting you prepare the proper package with all the new fix, can you just point me out the file name of the fb files I need to replace (fb stands for framebuffer, isn't it) and then I guess I need to delete the Extentions.mkext to delete the extensions cache and reboot. correct?
thank you in advance


i will provide the older framebuffer (fb) later tonight or tomorrow...
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...but unfortunately there is no easy way to get 4.3 gb of data to a freebie places w/o hassle...


torrent is easy enough, if it is done right. And I would gladly publish the torrent if I had the ISO. So I'd like to ask someone who has the ISO to diff it against this image and send me the patch. It should not be too large, right?
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What's the status of getting the headphone port to work at this point?
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QUOTE (palomu @ Jan 14 2009, 05:58 PM) *
can you help me me realrooster? i tried but didn't work i've posted a screenshot what number i had to write instead of 16?


16
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QUOTE (SiM SaM SunG @ Jan 14 2009, 09:31 PM) *
torrent is easy enough, if it is done right. And I would gladly publish the torrent if I had the ISO. So I'd like to ask someone who has the ISO to diff it against this image and send me the patch. It should not be too large, right?


And I'm happy to seed if it is republished - I have the original iso from demonoid.
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QUOTE (psneddon @ Jan 13 2009, 05:01 PM) *
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Save the file then remove /System/Library/Extensions.mkext , then reboot.

e.g. #sudo rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext
#sudo reboot -n

Paul


Brilliant, I will make this change when I get back home tonight. Looking forward to properly working bluetooth!

Thanks

QUOTE (psneddon @ Jan 14 2009, 11:28 AM) *
The reason why I'm posting is that i need some help with some stuff....

1) I'm trying to figure out which bootloader to use, three are various ones flying around which allow you to use a custom DSDT file, set the EFI strings in the Boot.plist, and one that lets you specify the SMBIOS properties. So can anyone give advice on which one to use that will provide the most features while still being compatable with EFI boot method?

2) Which SMBIOS type KEXT works best on the NC10? I would like my NC10 to be indentified as a MacBook Air (it just looks nicer), at the moment I have my SMBIOS strings set in the Boot.plist so that my NC10 is identified as an MacBook Pro, I think its a specific version of Chameleon bootloader which has this functionality. I think a better method would be to place some sort of SMBIOS resolver KEXT in the EFI partition, so can anyone point me to the KEXT which works best.

3) Regarding EFI strings, does anyone have an example Boot.plist for the NC10 which includes the EFI string that lets Video / Audio work without modifiing the KEXTs (I know with the audio its probably not possible) as I think this should be possible for at least the video!

4) The DSDT.aml file. Does anyone know of any existing tweaks for the 04AC bios version (latest) that fix any problems or improve anything? This DSDT.aml can also be put in the root of the EFI partition.

I think Mysticus C has done some great work, and there are only a few little things that we need to do make the install on the NC10 almost perfect, in my opinion they are 1) Getting the sound working fully 2) Getting sleep on AC to work 3) Getting sleep / wake on lid open / close to work fully. 4) Getting Speedstep to work (I've tried the VoodooPower but it causes problems when on battery).

Thanks for reading! Lets try getting our heads together some more wink.gif

Paul


I think I can help you with a few things here. My NC10 is running a retail DVD vanilla install very well. I think you've found the thread from Munky which explains how to install the bootloader and prepare the EFI partition.

1) I'm using efi_boot 6.1 - works very well and provides support for DSDT.aml

2) I'll look up what I'm using but AFAIR my setup is far from perferct. I'd be glad if we'd find a solution that covers every aspect. E.g. I've tried to install Parallels 4 and that didn't work - presumably because my NC10 isn't properly identified as a mac!?

3) Stuart (srcshelton) posted a Boot.plist which enables the video to work without the Natit.kext. AFAIK you'd still need to patch the video kext to work with the device ID of the gfx card.

4) I-m afraid I can't help you here. I'm still running the old version of the bios. I've got my corrected DSDT.aml from Stuart's weblog (google is your friend) but that presumably won't help you.

Best regards,
Timo

PS: I'm successfully using the "old" version of SuperHai's VoodooPower called GenericCPUPowerManagement.kext or something similarly unpronounceable ;-) That one works for me without any problems.
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QUOTE (milton02 @ Jan 14 2009, 01:49 PM) *
Now I am able to use the shared bluetooth pan connection of my iMac, but it's really really slow...
I got very high high ping to reach my iMac that acts as router....like 15000 ms!!!
taking a look the Console Messages I see a lot of those errors:

_CFGetHostUUIDString: unable to determine UUID for host. Error: 35

It maybe related ? Are there any fix to this?


I assume that you've not replaced the stock Wifi card?

The error usually occurs when MacOS tries to read the MAC address of your primary ethernet port to use as a Unique Identifier. However, given that neither the onboard LAN nor the stock WLAN work out of the box (and bluetooth IDs work somewhat differently) this fails - which could lead on to all sorts of problems.

I'm afraid that the fix for this problem is to replace the stock Wifi card with a working Broadcom variant.

(It may also be solved through the use of a USB ethernet adapter - such as the one which Apple sells for use with the (real ;) MacBook Air. I haven't tried this myself, though.)
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