Video of iPhone/iPod OS running on Mac Pro with touch screen monitor
The bright sparks over at Dreamfield (Swedish post-production powerhouse) have figured out how to get the iPhone/iPod OS running on a Mac Pro with a touch screen monitor. Check out the brief vid below!
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~J~ on June 18th, 2009 at 3:59 am
A few things intrigue me,
1) This is NOT an Iphone OS, but in fact an Ipod’s Os, read the top left corner it clearly states Ipod/Wifi connectivity.
2) Has anyone ever seen that exact boot loader before? Anyone know about it? it seems Generic but it cant be.
3) less than a 10 second boot time, this is possible as the Mac’s specs are most likely extremely high, but still, it was still quicker than any iphone/ipod touch boot speed i have ever seen.
4) Desk to the left is identical, and its setup is interesting, a Wacom and a Pen can be seen, as well as office or regular office/ Job qualities are visible, leading me to believe this is most likely in a business, office or something of that sort, matters because if it were in a home the chances of this happening are quite small, or in other words no one would likely fake this since its in an office space.-Then again this is speculative and highly debatable.Following that, since it is a possible art studio (who would pay for that much equipment if it were not) 1. Why would artists care to do this, why. 2. If they are artists or something of a studio nature i doubt they have cause for faking this…
5) Real or not, this guy has either practiced this or knows it well as he is able to do it fluidly and quickly…..
6) Does anyone know the monitors specs? Type, anything? Is it a mac, or some other make.
Small details go a long way, anyone have any ideas as to how this is possible…
I’l look into the accelerometer, but they could have also pluged an ipod into the pc/monitor?
Difficult, and near to impossible to do…..But “PROBABLY” not impossible, we all once thought OS X on a PC was impossible…Years ago that is .
PS: It could also just be something like a custom program, maybe not something like an OS, but we all have seen windows on a damn psp right?, well more or less just an ingenious app that is ., and depending on the monitor (it is obviously touchscreen) you could either manually add and “accelerator” or add a device that acts like one to the monitor through wiring-This although complicated is plausible.
Keep in mind a PC especially a Mac is a hell of a lot faster than any Iphone, so doing this would not require many tweaks….
Or we all could be hoaxed while contemplating a modern day mystery in our minds……
Verdict: Possible, but unproven……
Do not try to argue i’m wrong, i have not done what they have done so i would not know much on if its real or not.
These are my opinions, proven false or true, depending only on time.
Well first of all unless he somehow got the the source code of the iphone OS and complied it for x86, then its unlikely. I personally think he had his friend behind him with an iphone connected with a Video jack to the monitor and they did some really cool choreography. if you read the comments from the original youtube video half the world think its a pretty good fake video made by as it is a post-production company.
anyway I'm personally working on a real iphone emulator. any body with in-depth knowledge of the iphone architecture, its booting sequence, ARM, Virtualization and general cocoa writing skills can give me a buzz.
so far i've got a few pieces of the puzzle.
PM if you want in, can help, and got the time to put into it.
its part of a Bigger picture you'll see….
Plus there's no way in hell he had an accelerometer attached to that..
Theres no doubt it is real you know how much practice that would take to get exactally right. Its real only thing I want to know is how they made the custom accelerometer.
spammon – Having read context of Steve’s reply I’m pretty sure Steve had quite generous definition of the ‘drivers’ – as a ‘handler.’
Also there’s no need of ‘Apple history’ to understand what a ‘driver’ is. A driver is literally handler/interpreter to operate certain devices, modules and etc, etc. vbetts might think there’s no driver in OS X because there’s no driver to install. In fact, Apple OS X is to be operated on Apple’s hardware range so the ‘drivers’ are already included. If there’s new hardwares added in Apple hardware range, Apple ship the drivers via Apple update.
Also you probably misjudged the use of Apple remote. It seems he uses the remote as ‘home’ button on iPhone/iPod (you can see applications quit as he click the button on remote). However, he’s pointing the remote to nowhere (If it’s real, there must be a IR receiver somewhere around monitor but there’s no device visible) Also, If they really run the iPhone OS natively, why would they want more hassle using Apple remote lol.
Steve- There was a time when macs did NOT use drivers. This was many many moons ago. Most of the OS toolkit was in ROMs and those ROMs handled much of the overhead – including basic hardware support. Those days are long gone though. Apple switched gears around the mid 90s and no longer relied on heavy/expensive ROM based computer operating systems. They moved to extensible firmware around the time of the iMac bondi blue and a software ROM. That was temporary until they could move completely to kernel based OS with kernel extensions (drivers) in Mac OS X.
You guys should really pick up a book and learn about your Apple history. I was in Junior High School during the early Mac years and still know all about the history of the Mac.
As for this guy and his iPhone mock up. It’s Quicktime or Flash based. Look at his left hand and you will see him clicking away at his Apple remote… It is most likely not running on a Mac Pro but on a Mac Mini or Macbook hiding to the side. He is using a “slight of hand” to make it seem like he is booting up in Mac OS X but it’s all an interactive movie.
he probably just had an iphone/touch stuck to the back of the monitor and outputted its accelerometer values there a a few apps for that, then somehow got it to link up with his iphone OS somehow
Theres no doubt it is real you know how much practice that would take to get exactally right. Its real only thing I want to know is how they made the custom accelerometer.
vbetts, Why must some mac people be in denial? I hear this time and time again, that on a mac you don’t have to spend tons of time searching for, downloading, and installing “Windows Drivers” hah! I use windows and I never spend any time searching for drivers (Only very rare circumstances, for example, I used to have a wifi card which the drivers it came with did not work well. So I had to hunt the internet to find newer better working ones) All the drivers you need come with your computer when you buy it. And if you back them up, you wont have to find them if you want to reformat and start fresh.
The fact of the matter is a driver is a driver no matter what you call it. And sorry to break it to ya but even macs DO USE DRIVERS! “Driver” is just a fancy way of saying kernel module. Any device must have a kernel module that sits between it and user land, or its not really a device. Its how your computer can communicate with and control the device.
So just remember macs have drivers too! They just call them kernel extensions(same thing as a kernel module) instead. Yep they had you there, Apple is a sly dog!
A few things intrigue me,
1) This is NOT an Iphone OS, but in fact an Ipod’s Os, read the top left corner it clearly states Ipod/Wifi connectivity. 2) Has anyone ever seen that exact boot loader before? Anyone know about it? it seems Generic but it cant be. 3) less than a 10 second boot time, this is possible as the Mac’s specs are most likely extremely high, but still, it was still quicker than any iphone/ipod touch boot speed i have ever seen. 4) Desk to the left is identical, and its setup is interesting, a Wacom and a Pen can be seen, as well as office or regular office/ Job qualities are visible, leading me to believe this is most likely in a business, office or something of that sort, matters because if it were in a home the chances of this happening are quite small, or in other words no one would likely fake this since its in an office space.-Then again this is speculative and highly debatable.Following that, since it is a possible art studio (who would pay for that much equipment if it were not) 1. Why would artists care to do this, why. 2. If they are artists or something of a studio nature i doubt they have cause for faking this… 5) Real or not, this guy has either practiced this or knows it well as he is able to do it fluidly and quickly….. 6) Does anyone know the monitors specs? Type, anything? Is it a mac, or some other make.
Small details go a long way, anyone have any ideas as to how this is possible… I’l look into the accelerometer, but they could have also pluged an ipod into the pc/monitor?
Difficult, and near to impossible to do…..But “PROBABLY” not impossible, we all once thought OS X on a PC was impossible…Years ago that is
.
PS: It could also just be something like a custom program, maybe not something like an OS, but we all have seen windows on a damn psp right?, well more or less just an ingenious app that is
., and depending on the monitor (it is obviously touchscreen) you could either manually add and “accelerator” or add a device that acts like one to the monitor through wiring-This although complicated is plausible.
Keep in mind a PC especially a Mac is a hell of a lot faster than any Iphone, so doing this would not require many tweaks….
[Touch/ Multi-touch] [Speed/ performance] [Some hardware=possible accelerator]
Or we all could be hoaxed while contemplating a modern day mystery in our minds……
Verdict: Possible, but unproven……
Do not try to argue i’m wrong, i have not done what they have done so i would not know much on if its real or not. These are my opinions, proven false or true, depending only on time.
~J
bluprint101, if you download the iPhone SDK, you already get an iPhone emulator.
Well first of all unless he somehow got the the source code of the iphone OS and complied it for x86, then its unlikely. I personally think he had his friend behind him with an iphone connected with a Video jack to the monitor and they did some really cool choreography. if you read the comments from the original youtube video half the world think its a pretty good fake video made by as it is a post-production company.
anyway I'm personally working on a real iphone emulator. any body with in-depth knowledge of the iphone architecture, its booting sequence, ARM, Virtualization and general cocoa writing skills can give me a buzz.
so far i've got a few pieces of the puzzle.
PM if you want in, can help, and got the time to put into it.
its part of a Bigger picture you'll see….
Plus there's no way in hell he had an accelerometer attached to that..
You've seen "Leopard on Ipod" haven't you?
spammon – Having read context of Steve’s reply I’m pretty sure Steve had quite generous definition of the ‘drivers’ – as a ‘handler.’ Also there’s no need of ‘Apple history’ to understand what a ‘driver’ is. A driver is literally handler/interpreter to operate certain devices, modules and etc, etc. vbetts might think there’s no driver in OS X because there’s no driver to install. In fact, Apple OS X is to be operated on Apple’s hardware range so the ‘drivers’ are already included. If there’s new hardwares added in Apple hardware range, Apple ship the drivers via Apple update.
Also you probably misjudged the use of Apple remote. It seems he uses the remote as ‘home’ button on iPhone/iPod (you can see applications quit as he click the button on remote). However, he’s pointing the remote to nowhere (If it’s real, there must be a IR receiver somewhere around monitor but there’s no device visible) Also, If they really run the iPhone OS natively, why would they want more hassle using Apple remote lol.
VBetts – Macs user drivers
Steve- There was a time when macs did NOT use drivers. This was many many moons ago. Most of the OS toolkit was in ROMs and those ROMs handled much of the overhead – including basic hardware support. Those days are long gone though. Apple switched gears around the mid 90s and no longer relied on heavy/expensive ROM based computer operating systems. They moved to extensible firmware around the time of the iMac bondi blue and a software ROM. That was temporary until they could move completely to kernel based OS with kernel extensions (drivers) in Mac OS X.
You guys should really pick up a book and learn about your Apple history. I was in Junior High School during the early Mac years and still know all about the history of the Mac.
As for this guy and his iPhone mock up. It’s Quicktime or Flash based. Look at his left hand and you will see him clicking away at his Apple remote… It is most likely not running on a Mac Pro but on a Mac Mini or Macbook hiding to the side. He is using a “slight of hand” to make it seem like he is booting up in Mac OS X but it’s all an interactive movie.
he probably just had an iphone/touch stuck to the back of the monitor and outputted its accelerometer values there a a few apps for that, then somehow got it to link up with his iphone OS somehow
Theres no doubt it is real you know how much practice that would take to get exactally right. Its real only thing I want to know is how they made the custom accelerometer.
vbetts, Why must some mac people be in denial? I hear this time and time again, that on a mac you don’t have to spend tons of time searching for, downloading, and installing “Windows Drivers”
hah! I use windows and I never spend any time searching for drivers (Only very rare circumstances, for example, I used to have a wifi card which the drivers it came with did not work well. So I had to hunt the internet to find newer better working ones) All the drivers you need come with your computer when you buy it. And if you back them up, you wont have to find them if you want to reformat and start fresh.
The fact of the matter is a driver is a driver no matter what you call it. And sorry to break it to ya but even macs DO USE DRIVERS! “Driver” is just a fancy way of saying kernel module. Any device must have a kernel module that sits between it and user land, or its not really a device. Its how your computer can communicate with and control the device.
So just remember macs have drivers too! They just call them kernel extensions(same thing as a kernel module) instead. Yep they had you there, Apple is a sly dog!